Way off topic....

Well my wife and i decided that we should get the kids a pool for next summer since they are really fish in human skin. so we decided to contract it ourselves. we figure it will save us about 10k. so today the pool excavators showed up and they are digging as we speak. it is very stressful because there is no turning back. the safety net of having a pool company do it is not there. I drew the plans and hired all licensed pool contractors excavators, steel, gunite etc. except the concrete walks, i will do that. i feel pretty confident that it will be done right but if something drastic goes wrong it will be an expensive hole in the ground.... sorry just typing instead of bitting my nails... 8O

Just wondering.. along the same lines, who else here has taken on a big project not really having done it before... such as room additions etc. i imagine most on here don't have a problem since to own a Husaberg you really have to be somewhat mechanically inclined. myself, I used to do construction and have re-built a few motors, but i am one of those- good at many things- expert at none kind of guys...

Hi Jared:

I had a pool put in a few years ago. Everything came out O.K. until the plaster went on. We choose white plaster with blue 3M quartz additive. The quartz wasn't mixed in properly with the plaster and came out very uneven (mottled), sharp edges everywhere and started cracking and comming off in areas. I would forget the plaster and check into Pebble Tech, an Austrailian invention I think. I spent $1000 on a forensic report prepared by a PHD. If you PM me with your address I will send you a copy as it has some good information in it. The plaster also began staining really bad due to the minerals in the water. When the pool is filled for the first time the water should be filtered in our area which it was not. If you find yourself in the San Diego area anytime soon I would be happy to show you what a bad plaster job looks like.

Thanks Husabutt, I had decided to go with just white plaster. Reason being it is much cheaper by about 3 grand. pebble tech looks great and we really want it but the kids don't care and we really wont be in this house long enough to really feel bad that we had not done it. And since I am trying to do this pool without borrowing money, well..... you get the idea. I guess i could sell my berg and do the pebble tech 8O I have confidence that the plaster guys i hired will do good work. That is one thing i did not skimp on i went with the contractors that have the best reps not the cheapest prices. Hmmm... kinda sound like i did the same thing when i went dirt bike shopping....

You may want to at least add some color to the plaster (blue is nice) to help hide any staining that may (probably will) occur. Also will help hide dirt that has settled in any "dead spots". If I had to do it over I would have placed a skimmer at each end instead of having just one in the deep end. Oh well.

Good luck to you. I'm sure you and your kids will have lots of fun this summer.

So after the Moab thing its a "Force Pool Party at Jared"s" I'll PM the Supermoto Team to make sure they bring the Husaberg Calendar girls .

Husabutt, I think you have hit an a very good idea... Husaberg calender girls.... MMMMMM

risky
We (but apparently it is MY problem!) have a pool that is set to get water in the the week before Chrissy if I'm still alive by then. (SH_T THAT'S NEXT WEEK!!!) Concrete shell, one side in the ground, the other far enough out of the ground to take the Husaberg off & land hard , in-floor self cleaner, Quartzon (another Aussie product?) render inside & glass & stainless fencing.

I went thru similar stuff building the house too. PM me if you want to discuss details.

:?: Not knowing a darn thing about pools........


Wouldn't one want to have the pool a darker color to help absorb heat from the sun. I hear pools cost a pretty penny to heat. I suppose that one would also want to put something in the bottom as well to help with depth perception too.

Yep if you want a free way of heating a pool you make the surface darker. However Living in the central valley of CA where summer time temp are usually 100 and above we are not really concerned about heating the pool and you have to be very careful because if it gets to dark it will be like swimming in a bathtub Yuk... especially when you really want to cool off. I don't know if any of you have kids but they really don't care how cold the water is. I was also told by our Plumber/electrician (who also happen to be a friend as well) that although gas heating systems do a fine job, they are very expensive to install and run. He said that a solar pool cover would do a decent enough job most of the time. and we are also having it pre-plumbed for a roof mounted solar heating system to be installed at a later date.

The pool is dug- rebar is going in today. I was thinking about designing a Husaberg logo out of tile for the bottom of the pool any suggestions.... :lol:

soooo who is going to make sure the Husaberg calender girls are ready to go... Brett are u listening....

BundyBear said:

risky
We (but apparently it is MY problem!) have a pool that is set to get water in the the week before Chrissy if I'm still alive by then. (SH_T THAT'S NEXT WEEK!!!) Concrete shell, one side in the ground, the other far enough out of the ground to take the Husaberg off & land hard , in-floor self cleaner, Quartzon (another Aussie product?) render inside & glass & stainless fencing.

I went thru similar stuff building the house too. PM me if you want to discuss details.

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so are you having a pre-formed pool put in? I guess i did not quite understand what you meant. But yes, this pool thing happens quickly if you get all the contractors to hold to their dates.

we are having what they call "baby barrier" installed. it is basically a fence that mounts into holes in the decking. When you are going to have a party or be outside for a while you can pull the fence up, roll it up and store it out of sight. we have a few friend who have it and although when up it does not look as nice as a iron or steel fence it can be removed to give the pool area a much more open feel. we are also having the inground cleaning system installed. Isn't this fun..... 8O

risky - You're US based aren't you? (if OK put your locale in your user profile) Here they are REALLY strict on fencing requirements - there is a 20 odd page code they have to comply with. Fencing has to be permanent with no gaps bigger than 4", no holds or steps for climbing, latches, gates, etc, etc... I s'pose if it saves lives it's worth it. I can't imagime what it would be like to have to pull a drowned kid from a pool.

I sure hope it is not pre-formed as there is about 50 tonne of concrete just in the shell!

As for going in quick we started in May but it seems I have been the slow bit in its construction - lots of concreting & brickwork that I have had to do before other work can get underway. Hence the comment in the controversial post that had the pic of the babe on the 'berg.

With the heating thing and having the pool too hot in summer. If you install roof-mounted solar panels, when the pool gets too hot in summer (ie the pool is so hot the water is not circulated when the sun is out) you can circulate the water thru the panels at night if the air gets cooler than the pool. This tends to throw off a reasonable amount of heat.

I agree with your sentiments on pulling kid from the pool. Having been a medic for 10 years I have done my share In fact the very first emergency call I went on after I was certified and working on my own was a 2 y/o who drowned in a canal up in Rexburg, Idaho. Had to do a little searching before we found him. Out of all the calls I have been on I will never forget that. I vowed from that point on I would be one of the best cardiac arrest ACLS (code save) medics where ever I went. I actually got that award (Most Code Saves) in Vegas a few years in a row '93-'94. But I had to experience A LOT of codes to get there.

I have to say i am glad I am not in that line of work anymore.

My kids are all excellent swimmers. (knock on wood) had them into the water by 18 months and swimming very well by 2-2 1/2. My current two year old being the exception because of when he was born. However, come spring it is back in the water. having been exposed to it way to much i wanted my kids to have the skills to save themselves if needed.

Fencing code are very strict here as well. (it's CALIFORNIA the litigation capital of the world :lol: ) .The Baby barrier fence is every bit a "Fence" when it is installed correctly. It can't be removed by any one kid once it is tensioned. We just thought that it would be nice to not have a fence when we were having pool parties and such since we could not fence an area big enough to enclose tables and lounge chairs and such and still have room for the kids to play on the tramp and grass. (read: small Yard) the fence basically mounts in sockets about 3 feet from the waters edge following the contour of the pool.


We also will be mounting alarms that go off inside the house when ever the door to the pool area is opened and the fence gate that leads to that area as well.

DAMN RAIN!

I was all set for Gunite and then the friggin rain started in CA. About 10 days of rain and finally a day to get them in to Gunite.

HALF OF MY POOL SLID INTO THE HOLE! 8O the night before gunite! now my hole is twice as big as it is supposed to be. and i have to have the re-bar torn out and the wall fixed and supported.

I was worried about this happening but i thought i was going to be alright because it had not happened thus far after all the rain so i was at ease. the morning i was supposed to get gunite i walked out in the backyard and HOLY S***

So now this is going to cost me about another 10k to finish :evil:

ouch!! I feel for you man.

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Hi Jared:

Sorry to hear that mother nature is having her way with you This has been the wettest winter in a long, long time. Per weather.com it will pour through Monday and then next week we should get a drying out period.

Once it drys out a bit it may help to tarp around the perimeter and maybe half way down the sides. If the standing water at the bottom gets more than a foot or so you could rent a pump but I don't think that water at the bottom should hurt anything other than be a safety concern.

You might want to wait till March before proceeding as the Pineapple Express is not quite done with us I think.

Husabutt, thanks for the info i will try it. I am extra frustrated because i had some extra cash set aside to buy parts for the berg that i knew i was going to need prior to the "Force Ride". we had a break for about two days here and the steel guys came and tore out a lot of the re-bar and they started removing the mud at the bottom- I guess what will happen is that the deep-end walls will end up being about 5-6 feet thick of gunite to make up for the walls that slid. concrete is expensive right now.....

Risky
Sorry to hear about your tribulations. I am yet to hear a good story about building a pool.

We finally got water in ours this morning, after paying $3k extra for a different lining material that was to be completed before Christmas and then be ****** about until last Friday. We were supposed to be away on a yearly holiday after Christmas but we had to cancel so we could be here & wait for the pool company to get its stuff together. :evil:

We are at the point that, now it's finished (well, swimable anyway) we are all so over it that we couldn't be bothered getting wet. :roll:

Hey our pool is almost done. Just need plaster. We used a pool company. But be carfull. We have a friend who is contracting there own pool and a hole wall of gunite collapsed. Now he has to shell out major dough to fix er up. Another wall of gunite collapsed when the pool company did it too. So becarefull.