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hey all,
After using a variety of tyres and especially front tyres on my 09 fe450, i have ended up with a pirelli mt21, i wanted a xcmh but the shop didn't have any in stock and the current mitas at the time just wasn't going to cut it.
After getting the bike with a pirelli scorpion xcms which used to never wash out on hard terrain with a loose surface, I moved to a mitas stone eater c17 which was just sh*t on the same kind of surface, wore quickly on tarmac and did ok on dry tarmac but was very lumpy. The mt21 is awesome on tarmac but found it washes out quite easily when leaned over unlike the scorpion and doesn't bite as well, even compared to the mitas.
Most of these tyres were researched but either the reviewers opinion or my interpretation has left me with a decent but still not what im after front tyre.
What i wanted to find out is more about tyre technologies of these tyres in comparison so i could make more informed decisions in the future.
So far I've got tyre pressures and terrains downpat, found out from the local tyre shop that harder tyres work better on softer surfaces and visce versa and by looking at the different tyres profiles with the guy at the local bike shop he said that tyres that do bite well have angled shoulder knobs normally the second set in from the sidewall - scorpion washougal etc
The problem i found was with the the tyres that do bite well in corners, with the angled shoulder knobs, is they were of a mid soft or round there compound which to me suggests they would wear quickly on road. IS there or is it possible to say take a mid hard tyre with the angled shoulder knobs onto hardpack with loose surfaces and expect good cornering performance on the dirt?!
would this then compromise onroad tarmac cornering due to more squirm out of smaller knobs?! - to me this is more of an understanding rather than a perfect tyre pipe dream
Ive seen people trim knobbbies and profile MTB tyres for better performance , has anyone taken a knobby knife to the shoulder knobs of their tyre to create better angles for cornering traction and bite?!
After using a variety of tyres and especially front tyres on my 09 fe450, i have ended up with a pirelli mt21, i wanted a xcmh but the shop didn't have any in stock and the current mitas at the time just wasn't going to cut it.
After getting the bike with a pirelli scorpion xcms which used to never wash out on hard terrain with a loose surface, I moved to a mitas stone eater c17 which was just sh*t on the same kind of surface, wore quickly on tarmac and did ok on dry tarmac but was very lumpy. The mt21 is awesome on tarmac but found it washes out quite easily when leaned over unlike the scorpion and doesn't bite as well, even compared to the mitas.
Most of these tyres were researched but either the reviewers opinion or my interpretation has left me with a decent but still not what im after front tyre.
What i wanted to find out is more about tyre technologies of these tyres in comparison so i could make more informed decisions in the future.
So far I've got tyre pressures and terrains downpat, found out from the local tyre shop that harder tyres work better on softer surfaces and visce versa and by looking at the different tyres profiles with the guy at the local bike shop he said that tyres that do bite well have angled shoulder knobs normally the second set in from the sidewall - scorpion washougal etc
The problem i found was with the the tyres that do bite well in corners, with the angled shoulder knobs, is they were of a mid soft or round there compound which to me suggests they would wear quickly on road. IS there or is it possible to say take a mid hard tyre with the angled shoulder knobs onto hardpack with loose surfaces and expect good cornering performance on the dirt?!
would this then compromise onroad tarmac cornering due to more squirm out of smaller knobs?! - to me this is more of an understanding rather than a perfect tyre pipe dream
Ive seen people trim knobbbies and profile MTB tyres for better performance , has anyone taken a knobby knife to the shoulder knobs of their tyre to create better angles for cornering traction and bite?!
