supermono husaberg advice please ???

documented · Jan 26, 2008

I love my 04 FS650 'berg & seems to me that they would make a great ultralight supermono track bike (sportsbike) with the right gearing (not racing).
I know that such things exist, & I would aim to keep the motor, frame & swingarm, but can anyone offer advice on all other components (susp, wheels etc) - or would it just be easier to put the 650 motor into a donor frame ? any ideas ? I was thinking of maybe an aprilia RS250. any input - even if I am talking rubbish - is very much appreciated. THANKS. Ian

Taffy · Jan 26, 2008

welcome to UHE documented. you'll probably find all the info on it here you'll ever need!

we have a resident roadracer in "DR_C". you can check out his gallery and get a lot of info by going into his profile and then looking at all his previous posts.

there has been one in the UK as well and i think he did use the original frame for that. can't remember the name but i would suggest that again you go into gallery and i would work in reverse order alphabetically. he has a lower name and lots of photos of it there.

regards

Taffy

loonyberg · Jan 27, 2008

Does that mean 650 SMs will become collectors items?

Maddel · Jan 27, 2008

Dr. C Find his gallery here.

SpikeHammer Find his gallery here.

Dr_C · Jan 28, 2008

Hi Documented!
I hope I have informed you well through our ongoing private email conversation? As the topic is rather "narrow" and propably not interesting to the vast majority of this forum, IÃ‚Â´ll leave this public thread right here. :?:

BTW: NWS also manufactured a very nice Minimono with 650-propulsion. They were lacking a good Husaberg mechanic in the team, so all the problems they faced with the motor, made them sadly enough "never to use that piece of sh*t again"!

documented · Jan 28, 2008

Dr C documented

Hi - yes that was all vey useful - thanks a lot; I am getting my ideas slowly sorted as to the best way to go for a 650- based track bike, which is maybe not as super-critical as for a race bike - & I took on board your advice about keeping it light + simple - which is very much what I wanted anyway.
all the best & thanks. ian. documented

Daz81 · Jan 28, 2008

RE: Dr C documented

Im sure you could maybe find a Tigcraft frame or rolling chassis for not huge bucks. Dr C is that a MR H rs250 chassis in the top pic?
My father is good freinds with Derrick Chitenden (Hejira racing developments those in supermono will know the name) and i used to revel in the quality and ingunity that the supermono boys(and girls) had. The last bike i thinbk i saw at Derricks was his latest Full carbon chassis, (carbon wheels, carbon frame, carbon swing arm) I would think on the right gearing a 650 berg motor would be very good. Would the MX chassis not be a little flexiable for a road racer?

Daz

Dr_C · Jan 28, 2008

RE: Dr C documented

Hi Daz!
Yes that is a "GP-style" Honda RS250 chassie from 1999. Hejira is well known to us for supplying chassis in the early 90s. Does he have a website up? I usually gear mine with 16/36. The gearbox has the MX 6th gear and a lower 5th from Folan, so it is very tight and useful. I would also think the MX chassie would be a bit too flexible, but for club-racing and trackdays surely quite OK. I used a 650-motard in the series 2002, and it was very fun. Crawling around on the bike like a monkey, being a king in the wet and getting the spectators attention!

But the straights were not so fun...

SpikeHammer · Jan 29, 2008

RE: Dr C documented

The Berg racer was not mine but a guy called Mike Smith from Yeovil in Somerset.

His gallery is here:
http://www.husaberg.org/index.php?set_a ... _album.php

I used to contact him through his wife Val who works for Talon Wheels in Yeovil. I don't think they run the Berg any more. I nearly bought it myself so they may well have it or bits still for sale.

Spike

Taffy · Jan 29, 2008

RE: Dr C documented

i used to race against a mike smith on a RGB weslake twin?

his sponsor was wheel chair bound.

regards

taffy

Simon · Jan 29, 2008

Dr_C said:
BTW: NWS also manufactured a very nice Minimono with 650-propulsion. They were lacking a good Husaberg mechanic in the team, so all the problems they faced with the motor, made them sadly enough "never to use that piece of sh*t again"!

I don't want to cast aspersions here but if they're the ones I'm thinking of, they had plenty of berg expertise available to them but they ignored it thinking they knew better - even when they had been warned :wink:

IIRC, as a result they did quite a lot of damage to the berg engine's reputation in the UK supermono scene, which was a shame.

As we all know, it is an excellent engine when looked after properly :wink:

Simon

Daz81 · Jan 29, 2008

Re: RE: Dr C documented

Dr_C said:
Hi Daz!
Yes that is a "GP-style" Honda RS250 chassie from 1999. Hejira is well known to us for supplying chassis in the early 90s. Does he have a website up? I usually gear mine with 16/36. The gearbox has the MX 6th gear and a lower 5th from Folan, so it is very tight and useful. I would also think the MX chassie would be a bit too flexible, but for club-racing and trackdays surely quite OK. I used a 650-motard in the series 2002, and it was very fun. Crawling around on the bike like a monkey, being a king in the wet and getting the spectators attention! But the straights were not so fun...

I thought it was a RS chassis, Derek is still pootling around he has a big old shed at his house, its like an alladins cave, He has an Original 90's YZR500 bigbang GP bke in there :shock: along with more carbon parts then you can shake a stick at. He made a lot of custom parts for my olld TLR (i used to race in the "sound of thunder") I think his son does alot of the work now, I dont think they have a website, i will ask though.

Daz

Dr_C · Feb 1, 2008

Simon said:
I don't want to cast aspersions here but if they're the ones I'm thinking of, they had plenty of berg expertise available to them but they ignored it thinking they knew better - even when they had been warned :wink:

LetÃ‚Â´s say like this: I know the background but I chose to express myself less direct than you, Simon.

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