Some FS650e questions

tryingtologin · Apr 6, 2012

Hi all,

Newbie here with some questions. I'm looking at buying a FS650e soon. Trawling ebay and the like at the moment. Sorry if they've been asked a thousand times before...

1. Can any one tell me the differences in between the year models? From -04 and up? Any of these models to prefer?

2. I've fallen in love with the -04 look of the bike. Can the plastics from a -04 model fit the newer models?

3. Service intevalls - 10-15hrs oil and filter? And then major service at 100 - 150hrs?

Cheers guys.

Ghost · Apr 7, 2012

tryingtologin said:
1. Can any one tell me the differences in between the year models? From -04 and up? Any of these models to prefer?

2. I've fallen in love with the -04 look of the bike. Can the plastics from a -04 model fit the newer models?

3. Service intevalls - 10-15hrs oil and filter? And then major service at 100 - 150hrs?

Cheers guys.

1. As far as I know there where no major changes between -04 to -08. A running one is the preferred model... :wink:

The -04 FS is lower than the other FS models and it also uses a different front brake than later year models. (-04 uses the 6-pot Beringer caliper and brake disc. -05 to -08 uses the FTE radial caliper and a braking wavey brake disc.

2. -04 and -05 shares the same plastic. -06 to -08 has another type of gas tank and different tank spoilers other than that it's all the same.

3. Service intervals differs depending on how hard you use it. I tend to change oil every 3-10 hrs. Any major service (100 hour service) is performed during winter time.

All manuals you need can be downloaded at http://www.husaberg.com/Downloads.33.7.html

regards

/Nick

tryingtologin · Apr 7, 2012

Awesome. Thanks for that reply mate. And yeah, I'd prefer a running one as well :wink: .

Seen some for sale only stating the km's and not the hrs it's done. Any quick reference to convert the two? I know it depends on the use but any general rule of thumb?

Cheers again

Rob

Bergini · Apr 7, 2012

being as it is the fs650 so assuming it was on the street alot maybe this will help some, i have ridden my berg 70street/30dirt for about 2700 miles at 60 hours. maybe 40% street driving it at 55-60 mph, 15% country roads 40-50mph, 15% in town 25-40 mph, the last 30% off road from snail slow pace up to 50-60 mph at times depending on trail/feild. the faster speed they go average would have less hours/kilometer the slower the average speed the more hours/kilometer. sorry i realized halfway through you said said km's or else i would have converted everything, too late now, if you assume an average speed of 95kph on a bike with 4000 km's = 42 hours, add in a few hours of idle time and a some time for slower speed riding which it would obviously have to have to get to the higher speeds maybe would get you a ball park idea of hours. at least thats all i can think of but you would have to get an idea of the average speed that they rode it at to even be close with you guestimate. and assume they had their speedometer working the whole time and havnt tampered with it, i am always suspiscious with an older low milage machine.

Idle · Apr 8, 2012

I have 335 hours and 10,800 miles on my 05 FS650e

I have changed the valve springs, valve seals, timing chain, and cam follower bearings.(roller rocker arm bearings)

It had motorex every 10 hours until 200 hours. Then Rotella T every 6-8 hours since. Valve checks every 40 hours.

It's a solid well made bike. I wish I could find another one I like it so much. But alas, they didn't import very many to the US, and are very hard to find.

IMO, It's as reliable as any other European or Japanese race bike.

Oh, and I am going to have it rebuilt very soon. Hopefully, I can get another bike as well. Maybe a 950 SM. As much as I'd like to, I can't rebuild my 650 once a year and I need something that is more suited for occasional long road trips.

tryingtologin · Apr 9, 2012

Cheers for the replies boys. Yeah I realise it's hard to know the hours to km's ratio without knowing the riding history. But as Bergini says, a rough guestimate works.

And reading your post Idle, just makes me wanna get one even more! So you haven't done a bottom end rebuild yet? At 335hrs? Sounds very good. Every other post I've read on other forums say they do a full reno around 100 - 150 hrs.

I'd be using mine mainly for fun and an occasional commute to work. So the km's won't rake up too quick. I've got an old motarded KLX650 now . Can only be described as heavy and pretty sluggish. But still fun for a workhorse. So I can't wait 'till I get something a bit more powerful. But like you said Idle, not too many around here in Sydney Australia either. Seen some advertised for between $4000 and $7000. Mainly earlier models. But they're on the completely other side of this tiny island... and would probably cost the same again to send across my way.

And while I have your attention, anything in particular to look out for when looking at one? Any common faults or known wear and tear which would indicate the bikes service history?

Cheers again

helithumper · Apr 9, 2012

I have a 2005 fs650e with 200hrs on it and 14000km's. I use this bike for everything, commuting to work everyday, track days(sm) and mx tracks, I just change the tires and off I go. I also like to do the occasional enduro race with it. Every winter I rebuild my engine, replace the big end bearing,piston rings and any other bearings that need changing. I don't think there as reliable as the jap bikes but the produce more power and are way more fun to drive.

I rebuild my engine for prevention measures not because something broke. I'd rather rebuild it in the winter than take a month of waiting for parts during the summer.

look in the doc on the homepage and it will tell you tons of info and what year engines have problems. I think the biggest problem on 650's would be the main bearings and conical valve springs( I broke one at 60hrs and another at 186hrs) changed to the dvsk's and no problems yet.

I beleive the year change is 2004-2005 when they changed to the 35mm bell crank.

tryingtologin · Apr 10, 2012

Ah yeah. I hadn't seen that wiki before. Got tons of info in it. Cheers mate.

Roughly how much does your annually rebuild set you back?

helithumper · Apr 10, 2012

It all depends, this winter it was I think just under 1000$. I changed the big end bearing 300$, I upgraded to the dvsk (dual valve spring kit) I think it was about 180$. countershaft bearings 100$, and then all the other parts needed to rebuild the engine( head gasket- timming chain and stuff like that was around 300$.

the winter before that it was 1400$. but I also replaced the piston, liner, main bearings. I think next year it will be about 700$

please remember I use my bike everyday that it does'nt rain. I do oil changes every 5-8 hrs with motul 5100 and check the valves every 20hrs.

you have to consider that it's a big single cylinder engine and puts a lot of strain on the lower end engine parts. so parts should be replaced more often. the engine produces around 63hp and weighs 62 lbs. good numbers compared to the honda xr650 that I think is 52hp and like 90 or 100lbs.

this is the most fun bike I have ever ridden, I've owned dirt bikes and sport bikes and I preffer this one. I actually have a 2002 kawasaki zx6-r track ready that is just sitting in my garage because I would rather ride my berg at the track.

the husaberg is defenitly more money to maintain but worth it. Remember ( you must pay to play)

BroLy · Apr 11, 2012

I have a 2006 FS650e bought new in April 2010 ( bike was new in stock on Portuguese Husaberg importer for 4 years ).

I've used the bike for daily comute to work in Lisbon ( high traffic ), also for weekend fun rides and 4 Trackdays in 2011.

In December 2011 i've made 10 000km on the bike in only 1 year and half, since it was winter and the engine was already consuming a lot of oil, i've put it to rebuild, took a new piston and the usual top end rebuild process.

In that 1 year and half ( 10 000km ) I've just changed the oil twice, the tires were still the stock ones ( i still have the front stock tire at the moment, only changed the rear ) so I consider the Husaberg FS650e 2006 model a very solid one.

At the moment I have around 10 900km and 164 hours on the engine, just a DOMA silencer, rejeted and now with 15 - 38 instead of 16 - 38.

I also possess another bikes with my brother, some of them really raw power ( Yamaha RD 500 V4 and Suzuki RG 500 Gamma 2-Stroke both well tuned ) but the Husaberg for twisties is the bike that gives me the most fun of all.

The only one that gives me more power even for corners, is Honda RS 250R 2-Stroke, but that one I can't ride on public road .. only on close circuit

Bergini · Apr 11, 2012

BroLy said:
In that 1 year and half ( 10 000km ) I've just changed the oil twice

BroLy said:
At the moment I have around 10 900km and 164 hours on the engine

shouldnt you have changd the oil like 30 times by this point???

BroLy · Apr 11, 2012

Sorry, I forgot to mention that we've changed completely the oil 2 times, but we checked the oil level plenty of times and everytime when the level was low we added more oil .

Of course the engine wouldn't be alive with only 2 oil changes and without refilling with some new oil from time to time. :cheers:

Goose916 · Apr 11, 2012

The oil level is not what you need to worry about. It's the viscosity breakdown and the potential metal bits moving through your engine. Just because you can ride it on the street, you have to remember this is a race(ish) motor. Stout for a race motor, but it needs attention just the same. You have to change the oil and check/adjust your valve clearance a LOT (check your manual, then drop at least 25% of the time or mileage they recommend). Check the content of your oil, and the metal accumulating on your magnetic plug. Your 'berg isnt a 35hp cb500 from the 70's, you have to treat her right in order to have her continue to give you some of the most exciting riding you'll ever do!

Check your valve springs. Are they single springs? If yes, STOP and go get the double springs installed. Those conicals are just waiting to break. Stay on top of it maintenance and she'll go a long way. Neglect that bike, and she'll treat the way most high strung supermodels, err supermotos do, she'll break.

Bergini · Apr 11, 2012

Your manual (downloaded from husaberg.com/service/downloads) says 15 hours interval for oil and filter change, most guys i think change 5-10 hours, some guys change it after every ride even if that ride is 1 mile around the block, if i were you i would change it then ride a few miles, change it again, ride a few miles, change it, ride a few miles, change oil and filter, then start following 5-10 hour oil/filter intervals......that was a good test of reliabilty though, i didnt blow up, test passed!!!!

helithumper · Apr 11, 2012

For a 2005 fs650e the manual says replace oil and filter every 3hrs or 20l of fuel.

Idle · Apr 11, 2012

Broly, your engine will make more power and last longer with clean oil. Change it please, once a month at least.

Did you have to lay the bike on it's side and poke a stick in there to get the old oil to come out?

pollo · Apr 11, 2012

That's a nice combination of bikes you have there Idle.
I change the oil every 5 hours
pollo

tryingtologin · Apr 16, 2012

Cheers for all these replies guys. Seems like some people are lucky with their bikes when not changing the oil, filter as recommended. Read a few posts like these now. And a few horror stories....

Went in to a dealer here in Sydney. Reckons I'll be very lucky to find a bike these days. Also said the 650's are more popular and in demand now when they're gone. Fingers crossed and I'll find one!!

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