Slipper clutch/cush drive

hey everyone.... im kinda new to the whole husaberg seen... so i might need to apologize for my daftness!!!

i picked up a very small gem of a husa...
(94 frame... rebuilt 96 501)

i have decided to somewhat make it into a supermoto...
of course i am never going to race it... but would still like to set it up right
i have already gone through this site and used a lot of the info!!! thanks...




i have excel wheels being spoked to my stock hubs... and i already have most everything set up already....


my biggest concern, dilemma is a slipper clutch...
who makes one that will fit this application...
i have searched this page and might just not be finding it...

i believe a STM slipper part number stmschu4565 is the right one... but the do not import them to the states...


anyone have any suggestions???

and also IF i cant figure out the slipper situation... what kind of cush drive will work.... i have considered the rekluse... however i have been told that the rekluse will not be the most ideal since once you are headed in the corner and your rpm drops... it will disengage fully and give any compression brake whats so ever.... comments on that???




any help would be great!!!

i mihgt have been mislead on one other peice of information too... i was told that a 501 might have some type of cush basket n the clutch???


once again sorry for the lack of knowledge on my part.... i have only had a husa for a week!!!


thanks


ax

Hey there ax,

Lets just clear one point right out of the way first - slipper clutches are for poofs :wink:

........ or for those that seriously at the top ........ until then, the best thing, which is an automatically adjustable and variable slipper clutch, is your left hand and little clutch lever on the left hand side of the bar.

What I would seriously suggest is learn how to ride supermoto properly first and then, if necessary, upgrade to a slipper clutch but only if not having one would hamper your performance on the race track.

Spend your money on getting the suspension sorted out properly and the brakes and the tyres and then go and enjoy yourself, learn how to back it in.......

I think you may be a little confused, or perhaps I am confused, about your reference to a cush drive and rekluse in the same breath. Rekluse is a type of clutch, not a cush drive. The cush drive is a load of rubber bungs that sit inside your rear hub giving some damping between tyre connection to the tarmac and chain connection to the engine, that's all.

If you want a slipper clutch you definitely don't want a rekluse and vice versa.

As for the cush drive - it's nothing to really worry about but some like the idea in case it gives the gearbox an easier time. It may ever so slightly change the feel of the bike on tarmac too. Again not much to be concerned about.

My recommendation to you is do the sm thing the way it was always supposed to be, without the stupid amounts of bling and down to earth, dirty and cheap and a whole lot of fun. Use the extra money you save for tyres, particularly rear one when you learn how to drift and back it in properly.

Cheers,
Simon

thank you for the reply....


as far as metioning cush and rekluse in the same sentence... i do apologize... i did not mean to infer that they were some how the same... i am very familair with a cush hub... and am fairly familair with a rekluse/autoclutch.... i only grouped them in the same breath to mean that they were an easy way to save extra wear on the spokes, chain, box ect....


i have everything else sorted out.... including money set aside for extra rubber!!! :lol:



as far as learning how to back it in.... fear not... for i also not only have a ktm.... that i love to swing around in the dirt... but i also have kept some of my dirt riding style and can still toss my heavy Vrod into the tight corners and slide the back through... not very often though.... bit awkward, and at times... stupid

still looking forward to try my hand at a husa,



as far as wanting a slipper and knowing that i am not going to be racing this bike.... i love to throttle my bikes.... but i wont unless i know they are set up for it and that it is not a bad abuse.... but an abuse that the bike can take and beg for more!!!

so if there are no other makers for slippers that anyone knows of... i will of course continue to control manualy.... or spend the extra money to import one myself.... but seeing how the exchange rate is so poor right now... (for us at least!!!) that might have to wait a while.


i didnot want to come off as someone who does not know how to ride in my first question.... i was only saying that i am not familar with husabergs... i do not know all of there qwirks and tricks.... or even where and who can be the best supplier for them... granted a bike is a bike is a bike.... but not all bikes are created equal!!!


thank you for your time and input....

ax

I've been running the STM slipper on my race bike and never looked back I only use it on the road now but would be one of the first mods I would do if I bought a new one. You can purchase different rated metal plates depending whether you want it to slip sooner or later. As far as cush drives over here in Australia there is a mob making sprockets with a cush insert where you bolt it on to the hub. www.prepel.com.au I've had the one sprocket on my 06 for 6months now and still looks brand new.

thanks for the info.....

i will check into those

FWIW I am running the KTM/Husa cush rear hub and no slipper clutch. I can not give you any scientific reason that proves the cush is better, but it makes me feel like I am being a little gentler on the trans and feels much smoother seat of the pants (I only ride on pavement). As for the slipper, I might try one some day but I am not racing at the AMA Pro Supermoto level so I don't feel that it's holding me back in any way.

I agree with Simon... spend the money on suspension etc... lowering, revalving and re springing for your weight is the biggest improvement you can make......Go to the KTM hardparts for everything but engine parts....Get rid of that delo carb and put on a FCR41...put on a after market exhaust system then get the bike tuned by a pro......Joe Racer oil cooler/resevor and a fan kit.....are a must for street use....
Rekluse's auto clutch is useless for a SM not to mention some on this site have had big problems with them.......A slipper is great for the track but save your 900 bucks and put it into the areas mentioned.....as well very frequent oil changes...Get a cush drive.... You mentioned you were building wheels using you hubs....safe move......Do they have the cush drive ?? If not go to KTM hard parts and get a rear hub with the drive and carrier... they are all sold separately, rubber jobbies, main hub and the sprocket carrier.....good luck...I raced with a 501 and they just plain RIP !! great engine for power...keep us posted on your progress and get your gallery goin so we can see picts of the machine.....

Seeing that you have a 1994 chassis with a 1996 engine, you will be lucky to find a cushdrive hub or a slipper clutch. I've only seen slippers available for the 2003-up model engines, and Husaberg didn't move to KTM wheels, etc. till the 2000 model year. What size rear axle is used? If it is a 20mm the later KTM wheels may work, if it is a 17mm maybe a similar year KTM LC4 rear wheel will work. No guarantees though.

Wilson said:

I've been running the STM slipper on my race bike and never looked back I only use it on the road now but would be one of the first mods I would do if I bought a new one. You can purchase different rated metal plates depending whether you want it to slip sooner or later. As far as cush drives over here in Australia there is a mob making sprockets with a cush insert where you bolt it on to the hub. www.prepel.com.au I've had the one sprocket on my 06 for 6months now and still looks brand new.

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Wilson, do you know if they export those cushed rear sprockets ?

I only do off-road but i never liked 4S engine braking (i allways prefered the 2S feeling of no engine braking) so even for off-road i like the slipper clutchs like the one in the Hsb Force parts and because im completly paranoid i allways want to use a cushed rear wheel in a 4S (i make in Tarmac liasons to my riding areas)...the system used by Prepel seems fantastic because you got some cushion in the final drive w/o the extra weight of a cushed hub !!!

There's an email address on the website [email protected], I'm pretty sure they'll send it anywhere, they have good stocks in various colours and they are trying to get the sprockets out there.

PowerFiend said:

Seeing that you have a 1994 chassis with a 1996 engine, you will be lucky to find a cushdrive hub or a slipper clutch. I've only seen slippers available for the 2003-up model engines, and Husaberg didn't move to KTM wheels, etc. till the 2000 model year. What size rear axle is used? If it is a 20mm the later KTM wheels may work, if it is a 17mm maybe a similar year KTM LC4 rear wheel will work. No guarantees though.

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good points......prolly no slipper, but "maybe" hope on the cush.....I had a set of 1999 husey wheels (17's) for my KX 500 and found the front to be 17 mm and the back 20 mm