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i haven't had time to read all the post about the 09 berg, but i showed my ktm buddies the pics and now we need some one "in the know" to settle this little dispute. Like i said i haven't had time to scour the forum for the answer. Is this new motor a berg design from sweden or is this a ktm design with the berg serving as an R & D bike?
 
it's designed by a swede. so it's designed by husaberg. they have used parts that first appeared on a KTM. we're not sure yet what but you can bet that as much as 90% will be common in engine poarts.

it is a husaberg design using common parts with their larger partners. it will be husaberg in everything that matters which is known as 'essence'.

thing is: nobody here has doubted for one moment it's reliability. why is that?

regards

Taffy
 
Taffy -

It's cause we're all drinking the Husaberg kool aid!

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it's because as much as we like to be different we want what's good as well and the word is "reliable"!!!! da-dah!!!

regards

Taffy
 
osubuckeye said:
i haven't had time to read all the post about the 09 berg, but i showed my ktm buddies the pics and now we need some one "in the know" to settle this little dispute. Like i said i haven't had time to scour the forum for the answer. Is this new motor a berg design from sweden or is this a ktm design with the berg serving as an R & D bike?

Dude tell your KTM buddies, read the decals on the bike. THIS IS A HUSABERG. yeah that's right something new and advanced is not by KTM......ahh poor KTM lovers everywhere are green with envy and basically having a **** fit that someone other then the great pumpkin is advancing the off road enduro class into the future. Well tell it to all the Linus KTM faithfull, sorry the Great Pumpkin is not so great afterall. 8) H-berg :party:
 
osubuckeye said:
i haven't had time to read all the post about the 09 berg, but i showed my ktm buddies the pics and now we need some one "in the know" to settle this little dispute. Like i said i haven't had time to scour the forum for the answer. Is this new motor a berg design from sweden or is this a ktm design with the berg serving as an R & D bike?

As I said in my post on the 09 thread, this engine has been around, as I understand it, since 2003 in Sveeden, yah for sure.

Ask your KTM buddies what the KTM four stroke cylinder head looked like before Husaberg was bought by KTM, and what it looked like soon after.

Like also said in my post, Husaberg was the first to come out with the one piece swingarm. Ktm followed some 3 or 4 years later.

It has been a good marriage no doubt about it for both companies.

However, if your buddies really want to know how good a berg is, then they need to ride one of a comparable year to their KTM. An example of that would be say an 04 Husaberg, and a 2006 KTM. :twisted:
 
RE: Re: new motor design

Uhm, Dale, I think you know the answer to that. They have plenty in Austria, but there is one thing that they lack that Sweden has. Trouble with this situation, the internet etc, is that no one can really believe that the little guy has the knowledge and resources to knock the big guys down, a David and Goliath scenario. It really is the 4 stroke force, perhaps only the few can believe it, but it lives very strong.
 
Re: RE: Re: new motor design

fryguy said:
Uhm, Dale, I think you know the answer to that. They have plenty in Austria, but there is one thing that they lack that Sweden has. Trouble with this situation, the internet etc, is that no one can really believe that the little guy has the knowledge and resources to knock the big guys down, a David and Goliath scenario. It really is the 4 stroke force, perhaps only the few can believe it, but it lives very strong.

Yes I do. And I have seen, so I believe.

Even those I know in the "industry" are dumb founded. I really enjoy be able to tell people I told you so for the right reasons!!

You know, when I first saw the new bike and the motor I thought whoa, formula 1 meets moto gp in the dirt!!!
 
I still dream for reliability beyond 5000kms which I have not seen so far in owning 2 Bergs. I do hope the new motor has more longjevity. But that is yet to be seen....

All in all the bike looks like a fantastic package an i cant wait to throw a leg over one for a test ride.
 
can the new generation motor outlast your berg faktor , can it outlast my berg too ???

only time will tell .

will the introduction of this new generation husaberg render the previous model obsolete ?
resale value , for example
 
yeah i hear ya

Resale value here in AU is no good already.... thats why its so hard to upgrade
 
This new Berg reminds me of my wife remodeling the house. If you take the new '09 Berg and rotate it either direction, eventually the new motor looks exactly like the old one with a new cam cover, set on it's *** end and rotated 180 degrees. Or leave the engine alone, and rotate the frame around it, then flip the frame around. It took thinking outside the box to set it in the frame the way they did. I wonder why the exhaust has not been routed other than how it has, either out the top and back, or down and low, rising at the swing arm. I anxiously await feedback about how the new Berg actually works. As to reliability, I am quite happy with the current crop, maintained as they ought to be with frequent oil changes. If I wanted a Honda, I would buy one.
 
There is nothing wrong with my maintenance that is not why the bike has not been reliable.
 
buzzard said:
This new Berg reminds me of my wife remodeling the house. If you take the new '09 Berg and rotate it either direction, eventually the new motor looks exactly like the old one with a new cam cover, set on it's *** end and rotated 180 degrees. Or leave the engine alone, and rotate the frame around it, then flip the frame around. It took thinking outside the box to set it in the frame the way they did. I wonder why the exhaust has not been routed other than how it has, either out the top and back, or down and low, rising at the swing arm. I anxiously await feedback about how the new Berg actually works. As to reliability, I am quite happy with the current crop, maintained as they ought to be with frequent oil changes. If I wanted a Honda, I would buy one.
Actually the swedish R&D team wanted to route the exhaust under the engine but the Austrians did not allow that. They even made a prototype with a flattened part under the engine made in a way so it could never have been dented. A bike with that kind of exhaust but conventional engine was used at Sumo practise som eyears back. 2004 I think it was. That one also had a perimeter prototype frame.
 
ok jocke, come clean now!

tell us how much of this bike did you actually know about leading up to it's release date at the italian show?

regards

Taffy
 

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