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Dont like the idea that it come out in orange first .... ala h.kornel photo.
 
Re: Presentation of 2009

h.kornel said:
Hi Girls!


I'm not sure if somebody has posted it before, but here I would post the new video of my from the EICMA, where
I recorded the Presentation of the 2009!!!!


Just go to youtube here:
http://www.youtube.com/husabergall


Seeyou:
Kornel
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WARNING ....

if you watch this flick you will have very strong impulses to obtain a new generation hoosaberg
 
faktor said:
Hi OrangeBerg,

When will you be receiving the new bikes here in Australia?
Around what month next year?
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FACTOR, we were told at the factory that the scheduled production run would be in november 2008 and with 4 weeks shipping we should see them in Australia early December. Im hoping its sooner.
ORANGEBERG
 
h.kornel said:
Kermit said:
Hi newbie here.

I wonder if only difference between the 2009 Husabeg/KTM will be the plastics?

Or...they were using the KTM plastics to cover up the 'Berg during this photo shoot.


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Hi,


This bike was the first prototype ever, I wonder where this photo could be from?!
They use the orange one, cause the original wasn't ready, and it was easier to do in orange for quickly! Don't worry, Husaberg will stay in first place with all new features in KTM house! :)
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the orange plastics were used as a disguise whilst testing so not to attract the attention of an unwanted snapshot before Milan.
 
Kermit said:
Hi newbie here.

I wonder if only difference between the 2009 Husabeg/KTM will be the plastics?

Or...they were using the KTM plastics to cover up the 'Berg during this photo shoot.


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Definately a HBG rip off! - I will point out the non - match of the tank shrouds on the tank, and behind the riders leg, you can clearly see the grab handles under the seat!

Yes - KTM ensuring they are showing "their" inginuity.

Azza.
 
awilksch said:
Definately a HBG rip off! - I will point out the non - match of the tank shrouds on the tank, and behind the riders leg, you can clearly see the grab handles under the seat!

Yes - KTM ensuring they are showing "their" inginuity.

Azza.
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I'd rather say it's a 'mule' - often used among car makers to disguise a new model with 'old clothes' during testing, prefferably using clothes from another brand in the companys portfolio.
 
Oh, nooooo! dont do it!

dont call it a mule - that would be a Suzuki DRZ or a KLR, I would preferr some other phrase.

Thoroughbred would more appropriate!

Azza.
 
Hi Girls!


Thanks for the thanks!!!! :)

I gonna have some more videos soon with better look from the bike, I just need time to do it!
So I be back soon!

Seeya:
Kornel
 
awilksch said:
Oh, nooooo! dont do it!

dont call it a mule - that would be a Suzuki DRZ or a KLR, I would preferr some other phrase.

Thoroughbred would more appropriate!

Azza.
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Somewhat OT for just a minute...

Thought that calling a prototype in testing wearing wrong clothes a mule was the international way. Is it just in Sweden we use that phrase :?: :eek:


Watched a guy on TV last night in the show "deal or no deal" who won 2.5M kronor -> 400k$ and some change. I didn't want to but couldn't help myself from creating a nice lineup in my garage for 2009 consisting of more than one new FE with various combinations of wheels 8)
Why do the interest and mortgage on my house have to cost so much :cry:
And just to rub salt in the wounds (Swedish saying, do you have it??) the temperature is getting lower day by day so heat cost is also increasing :cry: :x
Will stop my wining now and try to put in some more overtime hours so I can get a new bike in the real world as well :wink:
 
I will be keeping my 05 for another year but am wondering what the new 09's will cost.
Do you all think it will be in line with the 08's or will there be a premium on these for their
new technology?
 
kelsow said:
I will be keeping my 05 for another year but am wondering what the new 09's will cost.
Do you all think it will be in line with the 08's or will there be a premium on these for their
new technology?
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I'd guessing there will be some premium, in the USA Husabergs have always had premium MSRP, or at least tried to. The problem has been with all the non-current models that haven't sold.

For our market (American), I'd say if the bikes come in at 9K or even higher, they are going to have the same problem as before, unless they are imported in very low numbers for the first year, which could be possible.

In reality, it's still a niche market bike, and probably always will be.
 
Thanks for the UTube link. Video was worth watching. The fellow in the Fast Husaberg video embarrased a few 4 cylinder road bikes on the track.
dan
 
I bet that the 09 will be the $200 more than the comparable KTM at the most.

The 08s are priced exactly the same as a XCF-W KTM in Canada anyhow.

The problem that the US market has to deal with, is the Euro/US$ exchange rates. KTM Austria is subsidizing the prices of the US bikes and one of these days they have to raise the price to reflect the exchange rates.
 
DaleEO said:
After reading through all the posts, thanks to all who have provided pictures and documentation on the 09.

I have read a few posts speculating that this is some sort of Knock off of the KTM motor. I offer you this; It is my understanding that this motor has been around since 2003. I got this info from two different sources; One from a Husaberg insider who I cannot reveal. The second from the 2003 model brochure. The fact of the matter is that KTM once again is using the brains and engineering of Husaberg. Another example of this is the swing arm, it came first on the 2001 Husaberg line. In fact the swing arms are produced by Renthal in England. If any of you remember there was a delay in the release of the 01's due to a big fire at the Renthal plant which delayed production. KTM continued to use it's regular swing arms until just the past couple of years when they too went to the one piece cast swing arm. Alas, I digress.

So here's my two cents worth after reading all the posts and the official documentation on the new bike.

Lower compression ratio, from 13:1 to 11.9:1.
Lower amp hour battery, from 7ah to 6 ah. Don't need as much b/c of the lower compression ratio???
KTM style counter shaft sprocket. Gone is the circlip style retention=bummer.
Two radiators instead of one single.
Retention of rocker arm's to actuate the valves. Hurray, Hurray!! No freaking shim and bucket set up where you have to pull the cam to adjust the valves!!!
10mm-20mm shorter wheel base, depending on sprockets.
The addition of a scavenging oil pump, and retention of single oil filter.
10mm increase in ground clearance with same seat height.
Plastic sub frame. I wonder how this will work out in the long run?
Increase in claimed weight of 2KG's.
Retention of 26.5 degree steering rake.
Increase of 5mm front suspension travel, and 15mm in the rear.
Lower PDS mount of shock now on top of swingarm instead of in the middle. Looks like much easier adjustment of rebound damping screw, and easier to take off shock and put back on.
With the down tubes in front being swept back, this greatly increases approach angle over obstacles.
EFI, what we were all hoping for no? I wonder if this will make it easier to get a street legal version? No more jetting as it is supposed to compensate for heat, altitude, and a cold start circuit. Great, I just spent this whole last summer figuring out how to jet the FCR carb! LOL!! As a side benefit, it is assumed the mpg will increase as well as lowering emission's with a EMS and EFI.
Looks like we're back to positive valve train lubrication a la 2001. I suppose that's necessary considering the angle of the valve train.
I also believer that somewhere in this thread perhaps in one of the links, the oil capacity has been increased as well.
Anybody notice that little vacuum hose barb right next to the intake on the head? I wonder what that is for??? On the pre 2000's it was for a fuel pump that lifted fuel from the large low side of the tank to the small high side of the tank. Or could it be in connection with the EMS?

I believe it was Faktor that mentioned having the rad hose so close to the header would not be good. I agree that it is close, and not that this makes it any better, but, if you look at a CRF, or a KXF, their rad hose is very close as well. Summit racing sells heat shielding for hoses and wiring looms that would be easily slipped over the hose. Who knows, there maybe heat shielding on it when the production bikes come out next year. I am currently using this heat shielding on my fuel lines on my 04.

Overall the bike looks awesome!! I think that there might just be one of these in my future!!!
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I have also noticed that the shock has been layed down a bit as well. There was something in the youtube vid about the way the forces were transferred to the frame. I see a draw back here. It "appears" that getting to the adjuster's on the shock for compression is going to be quite difficult as it appears that it is buried inside the fuel tank. This would also make it difficult to adjust your pre load as well. Don't mean to be wet rag here just pointing out an observation. Has anyone got any info contrary to what I have just said??

Also, upon closer inspection of some of the posted pics, I see that the new bike has the KTM style top triple clamp, wherein the steering stem bolt on the top clamp is what adjusts the steering stem bearings, and the pinch bolt is what holds the adjusted set.
 
Scott said:
The problem that the US market has to deal with, is the Euro/US$ exchange rates. KTM Austria is subsidizing the prices of the US bikes and one of these days they have to raise the price to reflect the exchange rates.
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What they've "subsidized" is volume and market share. Currency valuations fluctuate, and I'm sure they're hopeful that retention of share/dealers/etc. will help them when currency values swing the other way. If the dollar stays low, then maybe they'll start manufacturing over here. :D
 
I had asked our new berg leader if there was any truth in seeing the new bike on

line at the milan show and he said you should'nt take to heart every thing you

read on line! So i took a much needed vacation over to eastern oregon & took in

some great riding!During mid week several people showed up husband & wife with

the biggest grins on there face and filled me in on what they had seen & what i had not!

Anyway they gave me the first two deposits on the new 09's bolth 450's!

I hope everyone has a great 08 season but a better 09!! Take care Rick!
 
rick

you know you get the best info here - with a little bull as well!

kelsow
do me a favour and transplant the new husaberg logo onto lennie's (motorhead) top lip please? i think it'll be a good fit and if so should be the new UHE logo! LOL!!!

regards

Taffy
 
Satex said:
Scott said:
The problem that the US market has to deal with, is the Euro/US$ exchange rates. KTM Austria is subsidizing the prices of the US bikes and one of these days they have to raise the price to reflect the exchange rates.
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What they've "subsidized" is volume and market share. Currency valuations fluctuate, and I'm sure they're hopeful that retention of share/dealers/etc. will help them when currency values swing the other way. If the dollar stays low, then maybe they'll
start manufacturing over here. :D
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Scott,
The US is borrowing billions per month outside the US,the result is a temporary devaluation of the US dollar. Having said that the US economy is still the strongest ecomomy on the planet,and recovery time will be quite short in comparitive terms.
The Canadian looney is driven by the world demand for natural resouces,oil and gas being the major players of late.One thing the canaidain enonomy does not have and will not in any of our lifetimes is the consumpion capacity required to maintain a stable currency in the short term.30 million people just is not enough.
In short the US has the capacity to consume everything they make and more. When production=consumpion ,economic stability is the result.Canada will never have that.
What does mean concerning the price of Husaberg!!! They will always be less money in the US,plain and simple it just costs less per machine to sell in a high consumption economy.
 

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