Needle straight and Pilot Jet relationship

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I would like to know the relationship between different needle straight diameters and PJ's.
For example to get a certain fuel mix from idle to 1/4 throttle, with DVT needle and 45 PJ you would need a ? PJ with a DVR needle and ? PJ with a DVQ needle.

Any ideas?
Thanks, Roland
 
Hi skibum,

That's an excellent question. It has been my experience that a one letter change in the needle straight is enough to split the difference between two different pilot jet sizes.

For example: Let's say you were running a S needle straight at high altitude (8500') and were withing range on the ps, 1 & 1/4 turns out to 2 &1/2 turns out, with a 40 pilot, and when you came down in altitude to say 3000', you find that you are out of range on the ps, more than 2 1/2 turns out on the ps.

So you switch to a 42 pilot but now find that you are less than 1 1/4 turns out on ps. There is a good chance that just switching to an R needle straight and that will set you right with the original 40 pilot will set you right.

This should make sense as the difference between a S needle straight @ 2.765 mm's and the R needle straight @ 2.755mm's is .01mm's. And the difference between a 42 pilot @ .42mm's and a 40 pilot @ .40mm's is .02mm's. So changing the needle straight on paper anyway splits the difference between the 40 and 42 pilot.

You'll just have to make some experiments like I listed above to make sure it's right.

Hope this helps,

Dale
 
Skibum said:
I would like to know the relationship between different needle straight diameters and PJ's.
For example to get a certain fuel mix from idle to 1/4 throttle, with DVT needle and 45 PJ you would need a ? PJ with a DVR needle and ? PJ with a DVQ needle.

Any ideas?
Thanks, Roland

the two are seperate areas really. the PJ only makes a fractional difference to the idle. if you were to start with a clean canvass sure an M staright to a T would mean the PJ would have an impact but the reality is, we only move one letter at a time, check what we did and then make one other adjudtment at a time.

so you set the needle straight for the correct tickover and nothing else. you set the clip for the best midrange and you fit the PJ for low speed running.

the only differences i've experienced is in going from a D to an E when i change from a 35PJ to a 38PJ. this makes up for the fact that the needle straight on the E lingers in the hole 6mm longer.

if you know the needle straight of the E lingers longer in the atomiser than a D series you make a pre-emptive strike by getting a thinner needle.

so DMS changed to an E series will finish **Q or **R coz you know that the restriction is longer and lets less fuel through.
regards

Taffy
 
RE: Re: Needle straight and Pilot Jet relationship

Thank you for the responses.
Taffy, what exactly do you mean with "correct tickover"?

Roland
 
RE: Re: Needle straight and Pilot Jet relationship

idle old chap. idle.

regards

Taffy
 

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