Need some help getting a carb to a machinist/shop

Hey there everyone,

A few weeks ago, we spoke of my carb and in the end it was pointed out that mine needed to be set up following this awesome thread by JoeUSA.

Saturday, I picked up my box of carb parts from the third and only remaining shop around me without the necessary changes being made to the carb. It seems I can't find anyone locally to drill the jets and machine the slide(the last shop told me that if it had needed to been done, the manufacturer would have done it).

If anyone has a shop nearby that can machine the slide and drill the jets, I would be very happy to send it your way. If they would be willing to reassemble the carb according to Joe's specific instructions, I would be so happy, I could crap jelly beans.

I will of course pay for shipping both ways, your time invested in handling the deal and the bill at the shop. Paypal, check or cash is all ok, or if you're the shop yourself, CC/debit.

If anyone can help out in this regard, just let me know.

Thanks very much for your time,
json

I'm beginning to think putting an 08 cam in the beast would be a much easier feat. You could keep your carb as the manufacture intended and run an OEM can, which would make everyone around you much happier. Perhaps even make it a hair more ridable.

You know I have all the answers

I believe that Joe's description of the Dellorto mods are the same ones that Dale used to routinely perform on all of the Husaberg Dellorto's. I see that Dale's site is down right now but he still posts profusely at flattrack.com where his email address could be had.

I agree with Ken that changing the cam to an 08 may be a better way to go.

Json

It really is easy to do. I did one this morning. slide took 5 minutes with a half moon file. you need a half moon file, a ruler and a vernier gauge if you do it like me. a little wet 'n dry to finish.

whatever, I understand your worries. I feel the same at the computer when you start talking that jargon as well!

regards

taffy

husabutt said:

I agree with Ken that changing the cam to an 08 may be a better way to go.

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Hey there guys,

Before I create the classified ad:

When you say 08, are you speaking of a model of cam, or the model-year of the Berg that it was originally intended for?

Thanks very much for your time!
json

Yes emphatically yes...... well maybe kinda sorta ya know......

I thnk the 2008 cam is the same as the 2004 and up. Check the pat numbers. I think that I did check the part numbers and they were the same. There is a thread buried somewhere......

The beauty of the whole thing is that you can use the 2004 and up decomp without modification.

Check with Taffy et al before you pull the trigger on my say as lately I have been shuffling through the Texas sand, but my head's in Mississippi..........

Thanks very much for your help, no matter how fuzzy your mind is I will shoot Sir Lloyd a PM to try to find out what in the heck I need.

schwim said:

husabutt said:

I agree with Ken that changing the cam to an 08 may be a better way to go.

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Hey there guys,

Before I create the classified ad:

When you say 08, are you speaking of a model of cam, or the model-year of the Berg that it was originally intended for?

Thanks very much for your time!
json

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I believe the 08 cam is stamped "08" on the end of it. Not so much a year indicator. I'm sure taffy will straighten us out on this.

...I was going to say: when do I get the credit for only mentioning it last week? 8O 8O

the 08 cam is a profile and not a year Json and it was put in the 2003 last of the line 650s and then when the then new model started in 2004 it was put in all of them including the 450 (yep just 20cc away "two reef knots, two grannies and we were bound together for life....). it has poor cranking compression which is great! 08 is stamped on the end as ken says.

make sure you get the 2004 auto decomp for $30 and I'll let you know how to modify the spring.

regards

Taffy

Any dealer that wouldn't mind selling and shipping to NC, US, please shoot me a message.

Thanks to everyone very much for your help!

thanks,
json

Here is the Post / Thread I was referring to regarding cams:


husabutt wrote:
Can you tell a 53 from an 08 just by looking at it? Is there a stamping somewhere?

Here are the listed cams for the 01's

200 230-01 Camshaft FE 400 e/FS 400 e 01-
200 230-53 Camshaft FS 400 c/470/550/650 01-
200 230-55 Camshaft 501 01-

2002 cams are the same as the 01's

Here are the listed cams for 03's:

200 342-01 Camshaft 400 cpl. 01-
200 342-53 Camshaft 550 cpl. 01-
200 342-55 Camshaft 501 cpl. 01-
200 342-08 Camshaft 650 cpl. 01- (new part, probably means will fit back through 01)

So all the same cams were used from 01-03 with the exception of the newly introduced 2003 650 cam (08).

Here are the listed cams for the 04"s (note the change in part numbering)

800.36.010.000 CAMSHAFT 450/501/550 03- (probably means it will fit back through 03 or is the same as the 03 , can't really tell due to the parts numbering change).

820.36.010.000 CAMSHAFT 650 04-


2005 cams are the same as 2004
2006 cams remain unchanged
2007 unchanged? (no 2007 parts manual listed) use 06?
2008 unchanged (no 2208 parts manual listed) use 06?


So in 2003 the 650's came with the new "08" camshaft.
How do you tell what cam came in the 04 -08 models due to the change in the parts numbering sequence?
Are all 2004-2008 cams an 08 ?
What is the 2004-2008 650 cam called ?
Is an 03 650 cam exactly the same as a 04 650 cam ?
Will the 04 decomp fit right into the 03 650 cam without modification ?

Taffy Writes:

this is an easy one (for me at any roads):
400 cam is called the '01' and is a gutless, short duration pile of pooh!
'55' cam was fitted to the 501 due the the crankcase height not synchronising with the 53 cam. other wise the same cam but timing on both lobes is shunted around 5 camshaft (10 crank) degrees.
53 cam was fitted to the only other bikes left: the 470, 550 and the 650 for 2001 & 2002 and then in 2003 the 650 had the '08'. the rest continued with their respective cams.

it is indeed the '08' cam that continues to the end of 2008 and by now in 2004 it is fitted to the new 450, the 550 for the first time and the 650 for the second year. I would think that the 501 in its very last year ran the '08' with the cam timing now corrected by a change in the deck height of the cases. after all the 2004 engine was a new casting so it seems a good time to get it right.

regards

Taffy


http://www.husaberg.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=13729

Thanks very much for that, sir. One last question to the gurus: If I put the 08 cam in and replace the stock end can, do I need to change out any carb parts?

Elevation: 1,500 ft
Temp range: 75-90
Bike: 2001 470
MJ: 190
Idle: 35
Needle: K51 Clip is 3rd position down from top
Atomiser: 272 DR

Although I know I'll be short something, consolidating orders is the goal

thanks,
json

I purchased a Big Gun can for my 01 470 and did not need to rejet. I eventually went back to stock as it was just too noisy. Not sure about the cam though. I can't wait to read a ride report when you get it all buttoned up.
I'm thinking that the power should be nice and smooth off the bottom, like my 450 (same cam) contrast to the stock 470 which starts digging a trench as soon as you crack the throttle. Take lots of pictures please. A slightly thicker head gasket used to be available for the 470. Taff had said that it was discontinued but perhaps someone has one in stock. This should lower the compression a tad as the 470 has a heap and help with e-starting and its violent bottom end power.

Edit: Check with Dan @ Motoxotica as thats where I got my thicker gasket, he still may have some.

Man, if I could find three of those gaskets and stack them, I bet I could stay on the bike for a few minutes at least....


yes, that could work.....

The valve pockets have been machined deeper in the piston you are using for the LX1 cam.. That may have lowered the compression a bit already.
I had a guy wanted to trade for the LX1 cam. I'll call him tomorrow and see if he has an 08 cam in his bike to trade you.

Thanks very much for that sir. I'm heading out for official family visiting this morning and hope to gather the other bits I'll need by the time I get back so I can start on it.

schwim said:

Thanks very much for that sir. I'm heading out for official family visiting this morning and hope to gather the other bits I'll need by the time I get back so I can start on it.

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so what are the family providing? that was nice of them to put something in. I do love it when a family is so united - you must be so proud!

regards

Taffy

Well, last year they gave my whole family the rotavirus, that's the most memorable thing I've gotten from them so far.

I think I'm on my own for things that don't cause explosive diarrhea.

Quick question: other than a chain pin extractor, is there any other specialty tool I'll likely need? Over the years, I've lost most of my tools aside from the most commonly used.

schwim said:

Over the years, I've lost most of my tools aside from the most commonly used (one).

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your wife lets ya keep that one then! go it my son! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

regards

Taffy