My swingarmshaft is stuck!

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Hallo!

I´m on my way to change the swingarmbearings.

I have loosened the rear shock, and the the two screwbolts on the shaft.

But when I try to knock the shaft out it´s stuck!

Is this a common problem?

Any tips to get it out is very welcome!

Thanks.

Rikard aka boheme
 
swing arm shaft

Hello Boheme, I had the same problem with many bikes over the years. As the bearings get worn out, they will wear into the shaft, creating ridges in the shaft. Over a period of time dirt and rust build up locking the shaft into position. On my 02 470, I used a drift punch and a 32oz ball peen hammer to drive the shaft out, this was after ruining a lead filled rubber mallet, multiple peaces of wood, etc. At this point I was willing to risk ruining the shaft to get the thing out. This is why the factory recommends greasing this part frequently. I recently pulled my pivot shaft and it was already dry! I had greased it in March! Good luck, and let us know how it goes.
 
Hi,

it´s a common problem when you always wash your muddy bike with high pressure water.
Once a year you should pull out the axle and clean and lubricate it.

To pull it out, you should use the power of the threads.
That means, you unscrew one of the nuts and the other one you use to pull the axle out of the frame/swingarm bearings.

First step ist you tighten the nut to the end of its screw threads. Maybe the axle comes out a few millimeters.
Then you lay a thick washer unter the nut and do it again.
Then again and again with more and more washers. So you get the axle millimeter to millimeter out...
It takes some time, but normally you don´t damage anything - maybe except the nut itself, when you screw it only 1 or 2 pitches to your axle. (hope you understand what I mean) :wink:

greetings
hribman
 
a little help maybe?

heya,

Sorry it took so long, but here's some help from the forum archives. A few people have had similar problems, but it's getting tougher to find via the forum search function:

Carl's thread on it

CDNbergrider's thread

that should get you on the road to happiness again :)

thanks,
json
 
I too like Hribmans idea! wish I had thought of that some time ago, it would have saved me some effort.

This method will work up to model year 2003. The 2004 and 2005 models have an integral flange on the shaft that will require the old fashioned methods of removal described in Taffy's manual.

I would add that you should keep applying a good antifriction grease on the threads since you are going to be using them so much to pull outr the shaft free.

Best Regards,

Joe
 
hmmm.. is a shaft and nuts expensive?

I´ve tried Hribmans tip for awhile.... I´m not sure what the result is...

But the shaft is still in the frame...

Tomorrow I´ll find some moore washers... and try again.... I have also tried to penetrate the shaft with 556...

thank you schwim for the threads! I did try to search for earlier questions on the matter.... but with no result! You so you know I´ve tried!

Thank you everyone!
 
it's a hard life indeed...

hi boheme,

it's indeed tough to search using the forum's search function. A much better way to find results in the forum is with the sitewide search function.

Let us know how it goes for you :)

thanks,
json
 
Something else you might want to check on. My swingarm was stuck to and what I did was use lots of oil. After much soaking I unscrewed one nut out so far ( not all the way off) now one of the nuts on the end is a lock nut (leave it alone). Use some wood and a hammer to tap the wood try to get the shaft to slide some. Oil as many times as needed will need a lot, don`t forget the exposed part at the back of the engine. Put a wrench on the locknut and try to turn it to break it loose will take some time. Tap, oil and twist until it comes out. Then clean up the shaft and give it a good greasing. Hope this helps, takes some time and good luck.
 
what you don't realise right now is that that shaft if junk. finished. finito.

so if i were you i'd be brutal. when you see the condition of it you'll know why you were...

regards

Taffy
 
aaaahhh.. at last.... but it took sometime....

no,no.... the shaft´s still stuck!

but finally Taffy turned up! I´d began to wonder wether he was dead or what... :)

I´m not kidding here.... and usually he got some good advices too...

I´ve tried all your suggestions... and I have pulled it out like 4-6 mm....

I think Hribmans tip was fine... but I think it works better on shafts in good condition or semistuck shafts, and I will use that method when I´m, from now on, when I´ve learned the value of open up and regreasing things regulary.

if I understand Taffy right, the shaft, when stuck like this, is completely wasted! And with what method I use to get the shaft out doesn´t matter... ´cause I still got to buy a new shaft!
Right Taffy?

I´m on my way out to try again, and I don´t even want to think of how hard the bearings will be stuck!
 
When mine was seized after 6 months of ownership I ended up securing the bike next to a solid masonary wall and placing a piece of pipe over the pivot shaft onto the frame. thyen from the other side with a sacrificial nut and a large sledge hammer it slowly came out. Use a pice of pipe as a drift once the shaft enters the frame. I was able to retain the shaft. Slips out easily for its annual lube now.

Steve
 
the first bikes i had this trouble with was the yamaha it 175 back in the early 80s i have seen people cut the swing arms out put them in a press then weld the frame together i have seen melted swing arms and melted rear engine casings i my self have had to buy the tungsten carbide drill and drill them out but the method that works most of the time is to lay the bike on its side with the frame around the pivot bolt supported by pipe welded to a flat of steel then a 25mm alloy rod used with a 5kg hammer or bigger hit the bolt from both directions then concentrate on moving it from one side get a helper to hold the drift soyou can really get a swing at it use vise grips or a twisted loop of heavey wire to keep there hands well clear good luck and dont forget to grease it and every one before you buy a used bike it is a good idea to check that the pivot bolt moves before you find out the hard way when the motor has to come out
 

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