MEFO, a Dual Sport tire that lasts!

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Finally, a tire that I don't have to buy again every 1000-1200 miles. My tire experience spans 36 years, and so many bikes I seriously can hardly count them all. On Dual Sport (DS) bikes, I've 60,000 miles under my wheels, and at a minimum 80% of those miles are on the dirt.

I ride a lot of Northern Nevada, Northern California, and Southern Oregon. Some days are spent entirely on rocky trails that just shred knobbies. So, recently, I began a search for a good tire that would last, even considering a compromise tire.

My first attempt at a compromise lasted two days (500 miles) before I had shredded the entire center section of lugs off of the casing. The company refunded me half my purchase price. The second attempt was the MEFO tire from Germany.

Well, I just returned from two days in Northern Nevada (550 miles), and I've put another 400 miles on the tire prior to the Nevada ride. HALLALUJIA, and EUREKA (I have found it)! The MEFO looks like new at almost 1000 miles of riding.

Here is the skinny, the MEFO is a compromise DS tire. It has large directional lugs, but is not square like a knobbie but has the street bike rounded tread. The MEFO has good side tread, but again it is a little tighter and more closed than the traditional knobbie; although, the MEFO is a long way from a street tire. Like I said it is a compromise tire that is said to give 7-9000 miles of wear.

So how does the MEFO do off road? Surprisingly well!

I am riding a 2011 Hussaberg FE570S. The load conditions this last weekend included the Wolfman Panniers, Top Bag, and Tank bag stuffed to the gills with camping supplies. Also on board was a second bag strapped on top that included the sleeping pad, tent poles, and a small backpack/hydration system strapped onto the rider. The terrain was Northern Nevada, rocky, steep, and rough. We managed 236 miles between 0730 hours and 1800 hours. We crossed multiple streams, bounced off a kajillion rocks, climbed some steep hills, covered some gravel FS roads, and hit the pavement in between to get to the first nights camp site.

So here is my overall impression of the MEFO. It is an extremely good compromise. The water didn't faze it, it maintained good traction in the streams, the rocks were no issue at all and the tread shows only one or two small chunks (1/8 inch or less) missing, the highway was smooth and the tire offers good traction on asphalt too. The only drawback so far has been the side grip is a little lacking. I really noticed this when climbing side hills with off camber tracks. The tire would slip to the down hill easily and allow the back of the bike to step out. This happened, but it wasn't horrible, the tire would hook up, I just hadd to be a little more careful with throttle application because of slightly less traction than a regular knobbie.

I haven't ridden in the mud with it yet, but so far with it's performance on stream crossings, I suspect it will do ok, but pack up a little easiser than a knobbie.

So, for 7-9 times the life per tire, is it worth the compromise? Right now, I think so. With 1000 miles on the MEFO and it still looks like new, I'm pretty dang happy and sitting down to write this instead of ordering a new tire. Hmmmm......., what's not to like about that?
 
Sorry, Super Explorer.

Here's a picture right as I returned from the desert before I washed the bike at around 950 miles.

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they have a tyre over here that a good green laner wouldn't be seen without and that is the Mefo 'Stoneking'.

if I showed you the tread pattern you'd know straight away that they're related! :lol: :lol:

regards

Taffy
 
Taffy said:
they have a tyre over here that a good green laner wouldn't be seen without and that is the Mefo 'Stoneking'.

if I showed you the tread pattern you'd know straight away that they're related! :lol: :lol:

regards

Taffy

Stonekings are Mitas C02s made in Czecho, not Mefos. 'Mi' in Mitas is for Michelin, a major shareholder. They do a similar E07 to the Mefo which I can get 10,000 kms out of on my DR650. The Mitas E09 and E09 Dakar are a knobby that will get me 5-6000 kms. Its very similar to a Michelin T63.
http://www.motorcycletyres.net.au/tyres ... index.html

The C02s are OK new, but once the knobs round off, don't offer much drive. Fun sliding everywhere though, and they last a very long time without tearing or shredding. Not long took one off the FE650 in fact. Its no got a pair of MC5 Metzelers on it atm. http://www.motorcycletyres.net.au/tyres ... index.html

My favourite dual sport front is the Pirelli Scorpion Rally. Works well everywhere and will get me 10,000 kms on the DR. I'm going to put one on the Berg next too, and it may be the only 21" front I use in the future on all my fleet.
http://www.pirelli.com/tyre/ww/en/motor ... rally.html

Heidenau K60s are another very similar German tyre that goes the disatnce in the desert and dual sporting too.
http://www.brucecollinsent.com.au/cat/i ... y_id=15579

I'm also trying to wear out a Sava MC23 on the back. Amazing grip on gravel surfaces http://www.savatyres.com.au/DualSport.html

I've been trying a variety of dual sport 'DOT' tyres on my DR. I've got a couple of Motoz Tractionator Desert H/T coming to try on it next. http://www.motoz.com.au/shop_content.asp?p=tyrerange

I want it all, a knobby that will grip and last.
 
steve said:
Taffy said:
they have a tyre over here that a good green laner wouldn't be seen without and that is the Mefo 'Stoneking'.

if I showed you the tread pattern you'd know straight away that they're related! :lol: :lol:

regards

Taffy

Stonekings are Mitas C02s made in Czecho, not Mefos. 'Mi' in Mitas is for Michelin, a major shareholder. They do a similar E07 to the Mefo which I can get 10,000 kms out of on my DR650. The Mitas E09 and E09 Dakar are a knobby that will get me 5-6000 kms. Its very similar to a Michelin T63.
http://www.motorcycletyres.net.au/tyres ... index.html

The C02s are OK new, but once the knobs round off, don't offer much drive. Fun sliding everywhere though, and they last a very long time without tearing or shredding. Not long took one off the FE650 in fact. Its no got a pair of MC5 Metzelers on it atm. http://www.motorcycletyres.net.au/tyres ... index.html

My favourite dual sport front is the Pirelli Scorpion Rally. Works well everywhere and will get me 10,000 kms on the DR. I'm going to put one on the Berg next too, and it may be the only 21" front I use in the future on all my fleet.
http://www.pirelli.com/tyre/ww/en/motor ... rally.html

Heidenau K60s are another very similar German tyre that goes the disatnce in the desert and dual sporting too.
http://www.brucecollinsent.com.au/cat/i ... y_id=15579

I'm also trying to wear out a Sava MC23 on the back. Amazing grip on gravel surfaces http://www.savatyres.com.au/DualSport.html

I've been trying a variety of dual sport 'DOT' tyres on my DR. I've got a couple of Motoz Tractionator Desert H/T coming to try on it next. http://www.motoz.com.au/shop_content.asp?p=tyrerange

I want it all, a knobby that will grip and last.


Nice post with a great overview of available DS tires. If you can, give exact mileage figures you've reached using the tires you have tried on the DR, that would be awesome. The tire I tried that went 500 miles was a Michelin. Their customer service was pretty cruddy, they wanted me to pay shipping and send them the tire carcass before they would even consider a warranty. Thankfully, the dealer paid for half the cost of the tire or I would have just been hosed. No more Michelin's for me.

I'm with you on "wanting it all, a knobby with grip that will last." Many of those tires you placed links to aren't offered here in the USA. An interesting fact for you, the MEFO and the Heidenou (sp?) are made in the same factory.

Thanks for the great response with a few more options.
 
I posted a table here that may assist:
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showpost ... tcount=195

Its buried in my DR650 story which may also be of interest, which starts here:
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=646076

I need to update it a bit. The T63 rear I have on at the moment, and almost trashed, will only last about 80% of the last one I used. The earlier one was a Czecho made one, and the current one is Thai made. They look and feel to have different rubber. Work the same, but the Thai one won't last as long. They both have done a similar major trip to and from the Flinders.

The Sava is still work in progress, but looks like it'll be similar to the T63s in life, with better grip, especially on loose 'ball bearing' gravel with hardpack underneath.

Because we all do different things with them, in different terrains, bikes and pressures, I decided that relativities made more sense than absolutes in the table, but FWIW, for me, 100% life is about 10,000 kms in the table. That's 10,000 kms of outback travel, sand, dirt and gravel roads, rocky fire trails, with limited slop and mud and as little sealed roads as possible. Speeds are from 1st gear single track to sustained 120/130 kph and pressures ranging from 14-32 psi depending. And the DR is inevtiably heavily loaded, camping gear, etc, and the tank hold just less than 38 l for 700 km range.

I rotate tyres as needed, so I have enough knob for the planned journey, then put them back on to finish them off. I also balance them, on both the DR and Berg. Right now I have over a dozen in the shed, with about 4 part worn.

This is all stuff from my DR. On the FE650 for enduro use, I like the Dunlop 952 up back for consistent grip as they wear, and decent life with decent grip. A good all rounder. Up front, I like a soft/intermediate which don't tear on the rocks. I used to use BS 201s and Dunlop 773s. Both now superseded. I like the Scorpion Rallys so much on the DR, I will put one on the FE650 next. The current MC5 works good, but its now loosing side knobs, so its life will be about 500 kms. I also still have one new 773 in the shed, so that will have to go too.

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Up back above is an E09 Dakar about to be removed after 5000 kms of outback. The FE650 sticker may be sacrilege, but its fun how it plays with some people's heads.
 

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