Measuring the 05's

husabutt · Apr 6, 2005

At Taffy's request I took a few measurements as the rake on the 05's appear and feel like it is pulled in quite a bit compared to the older models. The first measurement was taken at the front upper engine mount bolt center to the front axle center.

01 model = 24 inches
05 model = 22 1/4 inches
The picture depicts how much further out the 01 axle is.

Visually the 05 fork legs appear straighter.

Swingarm length is the same.

Overall length (from front to rear axle center) is 59 1/4 for the 01 and 58 1/4 for the 05. This measurement is not precise due to the chain/wheel adjustment factor and is just for grins.

Jocke_D · Apr 6, 2005

The rake was changed in 2003.
Don't know if there were any more changes to the 2005 except for the adjustable fork offset.
Swingarm seems shorter though. Or at least I found the "range of adjustment" (sorry if I can't anglo-explain it so good) of the rear wheel was a bit smaller compared to my 2003.

Taffy · Apr 7, 2005

that eric, is a superb effort sir! thank you very much indeed.

for those that don't know, i met eric at moab and we got talking about the differences and how we could measure them! eric said that he would do this when he got home.

eric have you taken these measurements with the front wheels just 'kissing' your garage floor? because i see they're 'belly-up' on some crates?

another thing is; the difference is 1 & 3/4" yet the wheelbase difference is just 1". i guess you may have the chain adjustment set quite differently on both to make 3/4" difference.

we then questioned whether husaberg would have tried to keep the same wheelbase length and added to the swing arm length etc.

so all the questions have been answered in one go. here. i did line up two of bewrger's machines but it wasn't scientific. it was however clearly visible as we can see from the pictures.

thanks again and i hope you'll keep them in your gallery.

fry. any thoughts on that front spring weight or am i talking .....you know

regards

Taffy

husabutt · Apr 7, 2005

Taffy said:
eric have you taken these measurements with the front wheels just 'kissing' your garage floor? because i see they're 'belly-up' on some crates?

Taffy

The rear wheels were touching the floor and the front wheels were were about 10mm off the ground to fully unload the front suspension.

I think Jocke is correct about the 03's having the rake change. The 05 triple clamp geometry appears the same as the 01. I'll bet you could pick up an 03 frame on Ebay and not have to do any cutting

if you desire quicker turning.

Taffy · Apr 7, 2005

according to the info i've been given; the '04 is the year of the head angle change.

jocke_d is saying that the triple clamps were changed in '03. i have not heard this one before. be nice to double check that one out as well!

husabutt there is still the missing 3/4"?

mmmmm :!:

Taffy

husabutt · Apr 7, 2005

Taffy said:
husabutt there is still the missing 3/4"?

mmmmm :!:

Taffy

plus / minus 3/4" is within spec isn't it? I probably just need to add a few shims :shock:

Jocke_D · Apr 7, 2005

husabutt said:
The rear wheels were touching the floor and the front wheels were were about 10mm off the ground to fully unload the front suspension.

I think Jocke is correct about the 03's having the rake change. The 05 triple clamp geometry appears the same as the 01. I'll bet you could pick up an 03 frame on Ebay and not have to do any cutting if you desire quicker turning.

I KNOW that the rake was changed in 2003. Partly because the guys at Husaberg (lived 2km from the factory at the time) told me and partly because I switched from a 2001 to a 2003 the same year and the 2003 had indeed more aggressive steering. To achieve the same effect one can raise the forks in the clamps, like if anyone here at UHE had missed that 8)

The clamps are, as everyone know, new for 2005 but if that automatically changes any geometries I don't know. Naturally the adjustable offset changes the geometry but I don't know if the 16mm offset or the 18mm offset is equal to the 2003/2004.

Taffy · Apr 8, 2005

Jocke_D

i thought folk only complained about their header pipes touching the tyres last year? making the bikes '04s surely?

i don't recall anyone complaining 24 months ago? i could be wrong because your memory plays funny games....

so, has anyone here got an '03 and an older bike like an '01 or an '02 that they can compare these to?

Jocke don't forget that they may DEVELOP these things in '03 ready for the '04 model year?

another thing that would tell us is the factory literature. what was the 'speil' from '03 saying?

in the meantime i'll measure my swingarm dimensions and you can all do yours!

regards

Taffy

Horto · Apr 8, 2005

The confusion lies in what some call a 03 model. This was when Berg moved to austria, and the 03 model was to be first model out of Austria. Delay meant this didn't happen. The O3 they actually released to Australia was basically a 02 model with the revised decals and minor fixes to starter etc. My 03 geometry is as per 02 models. O4 were first with steeper geometry.

Cheers Horto

Taffy · Apr 8, 2005

i've checked the basic dimensions of my '02 bike.

the middle of the upper engine mount bolt to the middle of the front spindle is 23 3/8". why this should be so different to yours eric i don't know.

the middle swing arm pivot pin to middle of rear wheel spindle is 23 1/4" and is too close. indeed i've worn the rear mudflap away. so consider a gearing change and 23 3/4" minimum here.

footnote; the swingarm pin centre to the leading and then trailing edges of the rear wheel adjustment is; 22 1/2" - 24 5/8".

can you compare that husabutt? we can then say whether they have extended the swingarm or not (i vote 'not').

wheel base was 59".

regards

Taffy

dsducati · Apr 8, 2005

My 03 Came from the Canadian distibutor and was one of the last ones after the Austrian move (As told to me by Peter at HMS). Bought it in Aug 04. From center of the top front motor mount bolt to front axle center is 22 1/4 with forks extended. Don't see any tire marks on the header pipes. Bike turns quicker and has a bit more high speed headshake than my 2000 501. Guess I know why now.
Dan

fryguy · Apr 9, 2005

Taffy

My 03 certainly has the new rake as it is better steering then my 02 AND the tire hits the header. Interesting though that the model year has different chassis geometry, however as we know with 02 models some were bullet proof with the upgraded balancer and chain sprockets and some were grenades like the 01s. I would like to ask anyone if the upgraded 02s had the new exhaust and those that weren't had exhausts similar to the 01s? Can a person tell using that?

Springs?

fry

fryguy · Apr 9, 2005

husabutt

Man do those bikes look cherry, I mostly mean the 01, wow, come to Canada so we can put some wear on that machine!!!

husabutt · Apr 10, 2005

fryguy said:
husabutt

Man do those bikes look cherry, I mostly mean the 01, wow, come to Canada so we can put some wear on that machine!!!

I brought it to Moab all prepped, detailed and ready to go but no one needed a bike!

It was awesome that you and your friends drove all the way from Canada to Moab. I glad that we survived the ride up to the Steakhouse dragging that trailer with us 8O .

ajt · Apr 10, 2005

fryguy said:
husabutt

Man do those bikes look cherry, I mostly mean the 01, wow, come to Canada so we can put some wear on that machine!!!

Or he could bring it to Northern Nevada, and I could help him put some wear on them. :twisted:

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