Impeller shaft seal (05 450)

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Must you still purchase the impellar shaft bearing in order to obtain the impeller shaft seal P.N. 0625 062013? Is there a cross reference P.N. for the seal only?

Thanks,

Eric
 
I got just the seals and gaskets, ordered it right out of the parts manual. my dealer actually ordered it as we looked at the pictures together, and i never saw the paper-work.
 
Seals? Did you perhaps only get 2 O-Rings and 2 gaskets? The seal is not listed in the parts diagram. At least not in the 05 parts book.
 
No. I definately got the two(2) lip seals. Pull the cover, pull the bearing out, one lip towards coolant, one towards oil, re-install bearing(i.e. weep hole virus). We looked in his 06 parts book, looked just like the one they gave me when I bought the bike. It was warranty, he just gave me the parts, and I said thanks!!! Sorry I'm not more help.
 
jzfe said:
No. I definately got the two(2) lip seals. Pull the cover, pull the bearing out, one lip towards coolant, one towards oil, re-install bearing(i.e. weep hole virus). We looked in his 06 parts book, looked just like the one they gave me when I bought the bike. It was warranty, he just gave me the parts, and I said thanks!!! Sorry I'm not more help.
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I appreciate the input! I have not taken it apart yet so I am using prior posts to gather information.

It is my pre-disassembly understanding that there are 2 o-rings and a seal to replace and that you must purchase the bearing in order to get the seal?
 
there is one o-ring on the shaft, always a good idea to replace it. I have metric and sae o-ring sets and was able to find one that worked. I didn't even notice if there was one on the outer race, just re-installed it(ooops).That part was hard to find in the 06 parts manual, at least when i looked. I don't think it was on the same page as the seals.
 
Hhehee that might explain the cold engine oil weep. I'll pull it apart tonight and find out, without beer....hopefully. bad monkey..baddd monkey
 
When you take the side case off be careful of the kickstart shaft. It will try to come out with the cover.
Just tap it back into place as you go.
Good luck.
 
kelsow said:
When you take the side case off be careful of the kickstart shaft. It will try to come out with the cover.
Just tap it back into place as you go.
Good luck.
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Thanks for the tip!
 
Here are a couple of pix I took when I had mine replaced.

seal2.jpg


seal3.jpg


Be very careful when you put it all back together as the end of the water pump impeller can do some damage to the seal in the side case.

:oops:

EDIT, sorry, wrong pic uploaded.
 
Another bit of advice,

be sure and wrap some electrical tape around the impeller snap ring groove before you attempt putting the side case back on. The groove will damage your new seals, Husaberg makes a little tool that looks like the top to a super glue tube that slips over the end of the shaft to protect the seal during installation.

Also be sure to put a dab of grease on the shaft around where that little O ring goes when you are assembling. Take your time when assembling and don't force anything and your seals will like you a lot more.

When I replaced my seals I replaced the bearing and seals as well as the O ring as I had been riding in a lot of mud and water it got up into the weep hole.

I also found getting that seal into the case to be difficult b/c I didn't have the right tool. I went and got a 1" piece of aluminum round stock to use as a drift when installing the new seal.

Hope this helps,
 
Thanks for taking the time to post the pics Kelsow.

DaleEO:

In your opinion which wears the most. The O-Rings or the seal?

BTW your take on valve adjustment in a previous thread was super helpful. I have it printed out and in my tool box. You have a knack for explaining the unexplainable. I would guess that you are a technical writer of sorts or something very close :)
 
Hey Kelsow, In your picture of the side case, you are showing the seal that slips over the end of the crank to supply oil to the connecting rod.
 
After searching the archives it appears that the bearing and seal is actually a bearing/seal combo component. This must be why the parts manual did not show a seal where a seal should be.
Intermediate_shaft_outer_bearing_seal_assembly01.sized.jpg


Pic borrowed from Joe USA's excellent gallery.
 
they are sold as 1 item

i tried bearing suppliers and was told they are only available as a genuine part
 
same info here. when I called dealer they said they would order another bearing/seal comb. for some reason they gave me just the seal, because i specifically asked for it as the bearing is in perfect condition, that explains my scenario. Does anyone know if the weepy nature of this oil seal is the seal or the o-ring on the shaft?? mine has always weeped oil. Also, does the bearing separate from the seal(see awesome pics) since the outer race just floats in the cover. and takes only light taps to remove? Maybe some thread-locker(anaerobic seal) on the outer race will make it stay put. Or does dirt get pushed up the weep hole?? mine is gritty again. either way seems to be an inherently problematic design. At least it can be done in 30 min with skid plate on! :wink:
 
Can the bearing/seal unit be replaced easily without removing the side cover and without disturbing the O-Ring on the back side of it?
 
No, the cover must come off. Really easy stuff. remember to grease all the bearings and seals. Lube is the key to Life.
 
As far as selling the seal as a bearing/seal combo is joke(albeit a marketing reality). Dodge trucks with the cummins 5.9 diesel engine have a gear driven vacuum pump that routinely leaks engine oil(seal fails). Dodge and dodge DEALERS like selling the customer $800 vacuum pumps to fix the problem, stating the seal is not sold SEPERATELY. that is COMPLETE B***SH**. While Dodge does not sell the seal seperately, CUMMINS DOES. Crafty techs would disassemble the pump and match up the seal by ENGINEERING SPECS, not application, or call cummins.
SELLS more bearings or vacuum pumps that way. I can assure you the seal doesn't magically appear on the bearing before being PACKAGED.
RANT over.
 
jzfe said:
same info here. when I called dealer they said they would order another bearing/seal comb. for some reason they gave me just the seal, because i specifically asked for it as the bearing is in perfect condition, that explains my scenario. Does anyone know if the weepy nature of this oil seal is the seal or the o-ring on the shaft?? mine has always weeped oil. Also, does the bearing separate from the seal(see awesome pics) since the outer race just floats in the cover. and takes only light taps to remove? Maybe some thread-locker(anaerobic seal) on the outer race will make it stay put. Or does dirt get pushed up the weep hole?? mine is gritty again. either way seems to be an inherently problematic design. At least it can be done in 30 min with skid plate on! :wink:
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Could your grit possibly come from mineral or other deposits forming in the cooling system?

If dirt is getting in perhaps we need to run a vent line to an area that is cleaner and maybe add a filter at the end :)
 

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