Husaberg To Be No More ????

I heard that husaberg will soon be ended
any word on this?

Husaberg has been ended. KTM dropped the line when they picked up Husqvarna.

just a rumor started by the tea party. i don't believe it. after all, i see one in my garage.

I really wish It wasn't so... I absolutely love my 570! The 70* bike is by far my favorite! Maybe they will smarten up and use the 70* motors in the Husqy line.

tuts said:

I heard that husaberg will soon be ended
any word on this?

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This came out about a year ago right after the announcement of KTM purchasing Husqvarna.
The new Huskies look pretty good. the bikes have come full circle.

bradt390 said:

tuts said:

I heard that husaberg will soon be ended
any word on this?

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This came out about a year ago right after the announcement of KTM purchasing Husqvarna.
The new Huskies look pretty good. the bikes have come full circle.

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Of course the new husky's look good. I've heard the 2014 models are 100% husabergs but with husqvarna tags.

helithumper said:

bradt390 said:

tuts said:

I heard that husaberg will soon be ended
any word on this?

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This came out about a year ago right after the announcement of KTM purchasing Husqvarna.
The new Huskies look pretty good. the bikes have come full circle.

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Of course the new husky's look good. I've heard the 2014 models are 100% husabergs but with husqvarna tags.

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I would have to say one of the best looking bikes I have ever seen.
Never thought I would ever own a Husqvarna but I can see one in my future. I do like the name Husaberg much better though.

We are close to be able to say that it's Husqvarna in name but Husaberg in spirit. They are very close to KTM bikes, but still - today's KTM bikes have noticeable Husaberg DNA in my opinion.

I saw a quote somewhere that Husaberg engineers were transferred to work under the new Husqvarna brand - does anyone remember this and can substantiate? If this is true, then the Husaberg "spirit" will be further strengthened - this would be nice to see.

And yes, they do look very very good, the new bikes.

Anthon Berg said:

We are close to be able to say that it's Husqvarna in name but Husaberg in spirit. They are very close to KTM bikes, but still - today's KTM bikes have noticeable Husaberg DNA in my opinion.

I saw a quote somewhere that Husaberg engineers were transferred to work under the new Husqvarna brand - does anyone remember this and can substantiate? If this is true, then the Husaberg "spirit" will be further strengthened - this would be nice to see.

And yes, they do look very very good, the new bikes.

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I heard the same thing about husaberg engineers being tranfered over to husqvarna, It stuck in my head because someone said Husaberg was founded by disgruntled engineers who left husqvarna, and thirty years later they have to go back to there original workplace. Karma's a *****!!!

Another interesting thing is that the Husqvarna 449 motor was dropped by Husqvarna. It originally came from the ill-fated BMW G450X. Husqvarna dropped it - but it lives on in e.g. the CCM GP450 Adventure. Quite an interesting bike. UK-based CCM are finally building the true lightweight adventure bike that riders are persistently asking for. I hope it actually sells!



http://www.ccm-motorcycles.com/gp450.asp

The 449 motor was considered quite mild for enduro use, but it could be great in an adventure bike like this.

It gets good press for handling, suspension, and carrying its 135kg weight well. I especially like the electronically-adjustable rear sag setting to adjust for when you're carrying lots of gear. There are other interesting design details too. I'd really like to try one.

helithumper said:

Anthon Berg said:

We are close to be able to say that it's Husqvarna in name but Husaberg in spirit. They are very close to KTM bikes, but still - today's KTM bikes have noticeable Husaberg DNA in my opinion.

I saw a quote somewhere that Husaberg engineers were transferred to work under the new Husqvarna brand - does anyone remember this and can substantiate? If this is true, then the Husaberg "spirit" will be further strengthened - this would be nice to see.

And yes, they do look very very good, the new bikes.

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I heard the same thing about husaberg engineers being tranfered over to husqvarna, It stuck in my head because someone said Husaberg was founded by disgruntled engineers who left husqvarna, and thirty years later they have to go back to there original workplace. Karma's a *****!!!

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I thought the story was that the engineers didn't want to move to Italy or where ever when husaberg was transferred there under a husky banner so they formed husaberg which is the name of the town or means tuts is king, I forget which one. this is a 100% accurate account except for the errors

tuts said:

helithumper said:

Anthon Berg said:

We are close to be able to say that it's Husqvarna in name but Husaberg in spirit. They are very close to KTM bikes, but still - today's KTM bikes have noticeable Husaberg DNA in my opinion.

I saw a quote somewhere that Husaberg engineers were transferred to work under the new Husqvarna brand - does anyone remember this and can substantiate? If this is true, then the Husaberg "spirit" will be further strengthened - this would be nice to see.

And yes, they do look very very good, the new bikes.

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I heard the same thing about husaberg engineers being tranfered over to husqvarna, It stuck in my head because someone said Husaberg was founded by disgruntled engineers who left husqvarna, and thirty years later they have to go back to there original workplace. Karma's a *****!!!

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I thought the story was that the engineers didn't want to move to Italy or where ever when husaberg was transferred there under a husky banner so they formed husaberg which is the name of the town or means tuts is king, I forget which one. this is a 100% accurate account except for the errors

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This is the reason for the full circle comment earlier. Husky engineers left to start Husaberg when the company was purchased and moved to Italy. The KTM rfs motor came from the Husaberg engineers and now since the companies are one they are essentially back home where they started.

Guests at the exclusive Nevada Penal Colony receive word that Husaberg will cease to exist after model year 2014. A mere 12 months after the rest of the world was informed.

Word has it colony leader, tuts, has an offshore fishing trip planned out of Moab, Utah to pay homage to the travesty.

Anthon Berg said:

Another interesting thing is that the Husqvarna 449 motor was dropped by Husqvarna. It originally came from the ill-fated BMW G450X. Husqvarna dropped it - but it lives on in e.g. the CCM GP450 Adventure. Quite an interesting bike. UK-based CCM are finally building the true lightweight adventure bike that riders are persistently asking for. I hope it actually sells!

http://www.ccm-motorcycles.com/gp450.asp

The 449 motor was considered quite mild for enduro use, but it could be great in an adventure bike like this.

It gets good press for handling, suspension, and carrying its 135kg weight well. I especially like the electronically-adjustable rear sag setting to adjust for when you're carrying lots of gear. There are other interesting design details too. I'd really like to try one.

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interesting anthon

I think its missing 200cc though for its intended market

bushmechanic said:

interesting anthon

I think its missing 200cc though for its intended market

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Very true - but in my opinion the shortcoming is one of perception and market acceptance more than it being a strictly practical need. From the travelling and passenger-carrying I have done on my DR-Z, a mild and smooth but reasonably torquey 400, then a good modern 450 should be able to succeed in a bike like this. If enough people appreciate the weight loss compared to more cc's in an equivalently understressed +200cc. If the gear ratios are right, and the suspension adjustability works as intended, then a bike like this definitely has a niche.

Still, even only 50 or 100 cc's more would definitely help sell it - and would certainly be useful, let alone 200cc's more. (I.e. not at all saying it would be pointless)

Carrying weight on the dr-z isn't super pleasant, but it has more to do with the sagged handling characteristics making the bike FEEL heavy and underpowered. When you give it a bit of gas, it goes everywhere and is fine in highway traffic, you just have to surf the rev range a bit more/differently.

don't you guys confuse tuts by taking him literally [-X

Anthon Berg said:

bushmechanic said:

interesting anthon

I think its missing 200cc though for its intended market

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Very true - but in my opinion the shortcoming is one of perception and market acceptance more than it being a strictly practical need. From the travelling and passenger-carrying I have done on my DR-Z, a mild and smooth but reasonably torquey 400, then a good modern 450 should be able to succeed in a bike like this. If enough people appreciate the weight loss compared to more cc's in an equivalently understressed +200cc. If the gear ratios are right, and the suspension adjustability works as intended, then a bike like this definitely has a niche.

Still, even only 50 or 100 cc's more would definitely help sell it - and would certainly be useful, let alone 200cc's more. (I.e. not at all saying it would be pointless)

Carrying weight on the dr-z isn't super pleasant, but it has more to do with the sagged handling characteristics making the bike FEEL heavy and underpowered. When you give it a bit of gas, it goes everywhere and is fine in highway traffic, you just have to surf the rev range a bit more/differently.

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:thumbup: :thumbup:

do you know if they (ccm) use the crank having a pin machined from one of the webs and a plain big end in this configuration?

re the thread topic husaberg will live on in my workshop till im too old to wear pants, just wait till you see the 2015 model :twisted: :twisted:

Hi guys.
Regarding the whole Husqvarna acquisition, as I understand it, the BMW/Husqvarna tec has been sold off to GasGas, so I dont know if KTM got anything useful out of the whole deal, except maybe for buying the old Husqvarna name back for the Husaberg people as a way of saying thank you for making KTM what it is today... :roll:

What would be interesting though, is to see if Husqvarna is going to differentiate itself more from the KTM brand, as some rumours would have us believe? In the end I suppose it's more cost effective to just slap some different shaped plastics on the current KTM line-up and calling it something else.

But there definately is a lot of Husaberg tec in the new KTM engines, when compared to the previous 450/530 EXC, which had a lot of jap bike style in the design, like the ballancer shaft, the clutch basket etc, which were all dropped and now reverted to the older solid steel clutch basket, and the more compact waterpump/crank ballancer assembly, and the old skool ratchet type timing chain tensioner, which is more like the older BerG's.

It gave me a great sense of pride when I see everything thats 'new' in the KTM, is actually something thats been on the HusaberG's since waaaay back.

Regarding the 449 BMW engine, it seems to be a reliable engine as I've seen them G450X's being used,(with some success, I might add) in a local rallye type event, which was more aimed at the bigger adventure bikes like the GS800 and 990 ktm. The event covers quite long distances, but is not a flat out race. Also the Speedbrain DAKAR team used the BMW as the basis for their race bike, and they also did fairly well there, so maybe CCM has the right idea.

Besides, I'd prefer a lightweight converted enduro bike for dual sporting rather than a heavy oversized monster.


WD