Husaberg Then / Husaberg Now

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The truth as I see it:
National level racing of any discipline is not going to increase Husaberg sales. Grass root efforts with local dealer support as in Bozarth, etc. and big media blitz is truly what will move the machine.

What happens after the initial sale will be up to the dealer.

Racing for the most part is and always has been about sport and development, not unit sales.

For the record:
I have no aspirations of operating a "Factory Husaberg" race effort. That day has come and gone. However, when time allows I will likely build another giant killer based on the early engine design.

For now, when your back is to the wall and you find yourself in dire need of Husaberg technical assistance, you know who to contact. :wink:

Kind Regards,
Dale

[email protected]
www.D-Lineaweaver.com

Dale:

When that day comes to build the "Giant Killer" from a first generation Husaberg motor would you use the SEM or graft on a Kukosan ignition? Without regard to longevity and only looking at it from a performance point of view and ease of assembly.

Also why the early motor? Is it the heavier rotating mass? SEM ignition? And finally what model year motor would you choose as the platform?

Thanks,


Eric

husabutt said:

Dale:

When that day comes to build the "Giant Killer" from a first generation Husaberg motor would you use the SEM or graft on a Kukosan ignition? Without regard to longevity and only looking at it from a performance point of view and ease of assembly.

Also why the early motor? And finally what model year motor would you choose as the platform?

Thanks,


Eric

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Hi Eric,
Pre pump cases, year 2000 crankshaft assembly, Kokusan Ignition with Vortex box.

I have all the components including the ignition assembly.
The Big valve cylinder head is complete.

The engine was to be 500 cc as such was last years displacement limit. This year the limit has been reduced to that of 450 cc.

We started out with 600's, reduced to 400's, increased to 450's, increased again to 500's and now we have returned to a 450 platform. :?

All of the above compliment of the former "AMA Pro Racing" organization which has since been toppled.

The early Husaberg engines were true "race engines" as true racers were their demographic target.

Example:
Our four speed 600 engines made 64 RWHP, weighed 50 pounds and were not much larger then that of a 250 two stroke.

Thank you for asking.

Sincerely,
Dale

PS
Regarding specific application:
New and / or more is not always better.

LINEAWEAVER said:

The truth as I see it:
National level racing of any discipline is not going to increase Husaberg sales.

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I'm starting to realize this although, budget restraints aside, if Ricky Carmichael or even Jeremy McGrath were racing aboard Husabergs, sales certainly would increase.

For the record:
I have no aspirations of operating a "Factory Husaberg" race effort. That day has come and gone.

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I'm actually shocked at this statement but then, life is full of surprises! 8O

Log

if Ricky Carmichael or even Jeremy McGrath were racing aboard Husabergs, sales certainly would increase.

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Only if they were winning races, which considering their discipline is unlikely given an OEM Husaberg is not exactly SX, AX hardware. LOL.

I'm actually shocked at this statement but then, life is full of surprises! 8O Log

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Such would be great to once again operate a factory backed Husaberg "Dirttrack" program. However, the truth is that window of opportunity closed a long time ago.

Best Regards,
Dale

Dale, I thought you had a fire sale on all the vintage berg bits?
You been holding out?

LINEAWEAVER said:

Hi Eric,
Pre pump cases, year 2000 crankshaft assembly, Kokusan Ignition with Vortex box.

The early Husaberg engines were true "race engines" as true racers were their demographic target.

Example:
Our four speed 600 engines made 64 RWHP, weighed 50 pounds and were not much larger then that of a 250 two stroke.

Thank you for asking.

Sincerely,
Dale

PS
Regarding specific application:
New and / or more is not always better.

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Dale
Allow me to commiserate with you.

Some folks (and I agreed) said that VOR became what Husaberg could have been. They built the mx/enx (mag case, kick start only, non-CB, non-oil pump) motor for racers. They also built the ene (al cases, e-start, oil pump, CB motor) for play riders and multi-use. I thought very seriously about getting a VOR 530 enx, but the distributorship scared me. After 5 years of production, they no longer exist.
TM has always built race bikes only. Due to their price and their performance catering to experts, they make /sell ~2,000 units per year (that seems to be just fine with them). They do sell alot of Kart motors though, they have that market cornered.

8) Well, I'll throw in here ,as everyone else has. I don't really think that having RC or Bubba on a Husaberg would provide mich more than a temporary boost to the Husaberg Empire. Most race fans would attribute any success to the talent on the seat and not specifically, to the Husaberg. Therefore, I believe that good, steady efforts by the rest of the "mere mortal" racers to post consistant, favorable results has proven to be the E-ticket ride for the Husaberg. As always, support is the critical ingredient, both from the dealerships, and resources like the UHE. P.S. we don't need no stinkin' oil pump! :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

What an intersting post. The AMA sounds the same as when Rick Siemen was doing battle with the SOB's. Catering to their own pockets and we know what big 4 feed them. But since I hate politics, About them Husabergs. National level racing works today for big mass producers to help them sell big numbers of bikes on their big budget. I don't see Husaberg big in any way. I see them on the right track with improved dealer networks and continually improved bikes. But.....as TM-Enduro says, they need a non balanced race motor for the serious race folks. The crank mounted balancer will continue to be their weak link when ridden extremely hard. Sure a rocker roller may still fail now and then, but the average rider can deal with that. A scarfed lower end is another story. Finally, remember when the 82 RM 125/250, 83 CR250, 83 KTM 250, 84 KTM 125, 84 KX 125, 86 CR250, 87 cr250/125, etc etc etc were the bikes to have for MX racing as stated by all the mags? The starting line was full of them. On the offroad side Honda sold tons of 85 XR350/600's, 86 XR 250's, and Suzuki scads of DR 350's and RMX 250's. Hell, when the mags weren't slobbering over the bikes they were doing hop up articles on them. And whats funny, none of the mentioned off road bikes were really worth a crap. If Husaberg can get involved in off road tests/shootouts and kick the others butts, they will sell more bikes. This seems to be the cheapest national level exposure. Could someone not get to California and start wooing people and pushing the right buttons like Turner did for Triumph years ago? Nothing to loose, the bikes would come out just fine in a duel.
dan

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Dale, I thought you had a fire sale on all the vintage berg bits?
You been holding out?

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I simply sold off early OEM surplus.

I have all of the original prototype hardware and three complete early race engines. I also have the original mechanical drawings allowing for reproduction of most anything.

Dale

LINEAWEAVER said:

SFO said:

Dale, I thought you had a fire sale on all the vintage berg bits?
You been holding out?

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I simply sold off early OEM surplus.

I have all of the original prototype hardware and three complete early race engines. I also have the original mechanical drawings allowing for reproduction of most anything.

Dale

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Could you put me in your will to inherit all of your berg stuff?