How much is this worth

mitchyz250f · Aug 31, 2005

I have a long stroke 501 motor with the 'B' cam. It was purchased used from the first distributer that sold Husabergs in the U.S. I can't remember their names they were out in the boonies somewhere. The owners son rode in the ISDT. I polished the outside of the motor, which took ten million hours. Turned out great.

Mike Youngs' old mechanic Russ Fletcher did a total rebuild and blue print (about $950) and replaced all the bearings at my request. He also performed all of his tricks to improve shifting and about 8 other things to improve performance and reliability. No head porting. I lost the list of what he did. The motor was never unpacked after the rebuild. It also has a Brand new ignition, sprocket and S.S. screws. I also think I have the original 'A' cam that came with the motor. I spoke with the Husaberg office in Sweden about 4 years ago when this was done. The engineer I spoke to said that the 501 long stroke with the 'B' cam was the owners (pre KTM) favorite motor. Good bottom, smooth power and a super top end.

The clutch basket is grooved but other wise the motor is perfect and has not be run (or even seen by human eyes) since the rebuild.

Why did I do all this. I was building a one off bike from the frame up and this was going to be the motor. Anyway then I had kids and CJ frames screwed up my frame.

What do you guys think this is worth???

husabutt · Aug 31, 2005

What model year is it? E-start?

mitchyz250f · Aug 31, 2005

No electric start. An earlier year. Is there a way to figure out what year? The ignition is brown if that says anything.

berger · Aug 31, 2005

That's a real tough call being the age of the motor and all. Since the bikes from that era are only going for $1000-2500 tops it's going to be tough to even get your last investment out of it.
Sounds like ebay material to me, let the chips fall where they may. It does nobody any good sitting in the crate and will most likely only decrease in value.
As always...this is only my opinion and I could be wrong :wink:

husabutt · Aug 31, 2005

Just taking Bergers opinion a little further.....

Its true value is what a buyer is willing to pay and what a seller is willing to accept.

If you post some pics we may be able to help ID the year

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dsducati · Aug 31, 2005

May I ask what a long stroke 501 motor is? Newer 501 (94 or so on up)is a 95x70. If memory serves me correct, the old 499 was longer stroked with a ratio like 92x74? Is this motor actually what Husaberg called a 499? If so would be an early 90's motor. My 92 499 was a wicked fast vibrating beast!
dan

JJW501 · Aug 31, 2005

husabutt said:
Just taking Bergers opinion a little further.....

Its true value is what a buyer is willing to pay and what a seller is willing to accept.

i don't know about what the seller is willing to accept being the value.......i think value depends on a buyers opinion only, and if you can't find a buyer with an opinion that matches yours, then its overpriced.

for what has been spent on the motor, and the work you have put into it, i don't think its worth selling.

i'd be looking at a gokart project first off. surely that would be more fun and most likely worth more money in the end.

Have Fun
Jeff

mitchyz250f · Sep 14, 2005

Sorry I was distracted for a while.

I am not sure if this was refered to as the 499. I believe the 499 was the short stroke motor. It has been a long time since I thought about this stuff. I believe the long stroke motor was a 600cc bottom end with a 400cc piston. This when combined with the 'B' cam was supposed to provide a good but smooth pull from the bottom (no stumble) all the way to a screaming top end. All the while being smooth with little hit. The motor was used in ISDT's and european motocross. At the time it was the Husaberg motor, fast smooth and extremely flexible. I was told by a guy at the Husaberg factory that this was the favorite motor of the Husaberg motor designer. The 'B' cams were highly sort after for this purpose.

I know I can't recuperate my money and time I spent on just the polishing of this motor. Forget about the money and time sunk into the frame, gas tank, exhaust(s) I was building...stop me I am getting depressed. And that it is likely that I will regret ever selling it, but at the current time I have enough projects and the motor has been in the same package that Russ Fletcher sent it to me in for two or three years. Time for it to go. I am not looking for a ton of cash here. But if you got a trashed motor or just want to experiment with this it might be a good deal.

LINEAWEAVER · Sep 14, 2005

The pre 1994 501 engine (499) features a 75.5 mm Stroke and 92 mm Bore.

Dale

PS
"CJ frames screwed up my frame."
Were you building a dirttracker? I ask as I have never known Jeff Cole of C&J Racing Frames to goof.

mitchyz250f · Sep 14, 2005

I think the motor you described is the short stroke. My motor was originally spec'd out for the first U.S. importers of Husabergs. One thing about the early Husabergs is that you could mix and match cranks and pistons to create you own engine package and power curve. My motor has 600 crank with 400 piston.

It was going to be a motocrosser. The thing with C&J is that he caters to his racers. I discussed with him the best time to bring my partially completely frame down for him to do some work month before bring it down. 1 year later he had done 3.5 hours work!!! The part that was screwed up was the swingarm pivots which bowed out when he added the box section to stiffen them up. That pretty much killed my enthusiasm for the project. Jeff's a great guy and going through his shop is like taking a walk through a flat track museum. He has got old poster from the 70's that are great.

LINEAWEAVER · Sep 14, 2005

Your engine was likely imported by Surdyke Cycles in Festus Missouri.
If it is of true 500 cc dispalcement it is likely a pre 94 501 (499).

It also could be any number of various displacements.

Said engine quite possibly could have some of my parts in it as well.

Kind Regards,
Dale

mitchyz250f · Sep 14, 2005

Yes it was Surdyke Cycles in Festus Missouri. I remember now, I actually bought the 'B' cam from you. I believe it was the last one you had. Back in I think 1998 I bothered you quite a bit with my questions. We talked about the reliability and I believe I ordered rockers (I think that is right) for the motor. Between you and Russ Fletcher this motor had every thing done to improve reliability. But I don't believe my motor was over square as you described. If it has a 600 crank and 400 piston would that be around 500cc?

I know you speak to about a thousand people a day but do you remember anyone building a Husaberg Motorcrosser with a C&J frame from about 1998?

LINEAWEAVER · Sep 14, 2005

You quite likely have a 486 which has a bore of 86 mm (350 engine) and a stroke of 84 mm. (600 engine)

I do vaguley remember such a conversation.

Best Regards,
Dale

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