FE 570 starting issue

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oneal

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My 570 has refused to turn over properly three times. The first time I coasted it for a bump start and after an hours ridding time it cranked over as it should. Next day it cranked over and started right it. Two other times it not had enough umph to turn the engine over.

It is only a few eeks old and has just three hours on it. Could it be a bad battery ?, starter solenoid ?, starting motor ? I did wire in turn signals but they have all power removed from their circuit when the relay times out and kills everything.

Thanks in advance for help, Neal
 
I think you need to start with getting the battery tested. I also use a battery tender when the bike is not in use.
 
is it recharging?

check for this, it's an easy check nowadays.

regards

taffy
 
Removed the batery and hooked it to a maintainer for several hours. The green light (charged) never did come on.

Curious though, the battery shows 13 volts on my fluke. Could it stll be bad and be full voltage ?
 
Battery charge

Curious though, the battery shows 13 volts on my fluke. Could it stll be bad and be full voltage ?[/quote]

A battery at full charge and health should read between about 12.4-12.8Vdc.
Batteries need to be load tested to determine health/condition!!
A battery can read a surface volatge of 12.5 volts, but as soon as it ie required to do any work, they will quickly fall!!
It can be tested in the bike....just hook up mutimeter to battery(DC volts), and will read 12.5v approx....
Now, watch the meter whilst trying to crank the engine over.....a good battery will maintain 10.5volts plus....
A poor battery will quickly fall below 10v, if it has been charged and still falls below this, especially if 8v and less, throw it away, I mean disspose of it correctly, and get a new Batt.
If the relay chatters, or clicks but no starter engaging and turning, charge battery, and test again...
Hope this helps!!!
 
A few weeks old, and 3 hours? Return it to the dealer under warranty and let them figure it out.
 
The reason I asked about the idle is that after moding my exhaust muffler it resulted in a very high idle, at a guess over 2500rpm. It may not be connected with your problem but until I turned the idle down a bit the bike would sometimes not start. Sometimes it would start right up, other times it would start turning the engine over and then just hick up and stop turning as if the auto decompression had a problem or the battery was flat. I turned the idle down a bit, not to low or I would get the flame out/stalling thing and it's been fine since.

Chris
 
just a thought

I know this may seem too simple to overlook, and likely would have been noticed when removing the battery, but make sure of one thing...be sure your battery terminals are tight...be sure those cables are clamped in place snuggly...even a barely loose terminal will cause the bike to sometimes fire fine, and other times, just allow you to hear the relay click...just a thought...try the simplest first...believe me, we've seen this happen many times (not with our bikes of course :shock: )
 
RE: just a thought

Thanks for all the replies:
bikebarnbeckman- I was hoping for a loose connection when I removed the battery. All connections are tight including the staring motor. The battery tested at 108% also.

Dale- your right, I should just take it back to my dealer. But it is a two hour travel and I wanted to be certain I didn't cause a problem like a pinched wire when I had the tank off adding the turn signal wirring.

Chris- As I turned in for the evening I believed I had a bad starting motor as it will try to turn over but now stops on the compression stroke every time. I also noticed last night that the screen in the end of the silencer has vibrated out and is gone. I'm going to turn back the idle and try it before I load it up for a trip to the dealer but I am thinking your experiance may similar to mine .

Thanks for all the suggestions
 
Just a note as it sounds like the bike does not start now. Turning the adjuster in (clockwise) slows the idle, turning it out increases the idle, the complete opposite from a carb adjustment.

Chris
 
Muffler

If you modded the muffler and the idle went right up you might have opened it up so much that the bike is too lean. If you then turned the idle down you have a bike wich is to lean and with too low idle, not a good setup for easy starting.....
 
Issue resolved

Well, with the help of Chris (cimwill) I was able to figure the problem out.

When I brought the bike home from the dealer I felt the idle was too high but based on "flame-out" knowledge gained from this forum I decided to leave it alone , at least until the engine was run in. I noticed yesterday that the screened plug had vibrated out of the silencer can exit and raised the idle even more.

I ASSUME at the high idle setting there was enough fuel going straight in that it raised the compression beyond the starting motors torque rating ????????

Anyway, the only change I made was to turn the idle down and It has been started six times with no issue. I should also mention that when I started changing the idle setting I was turning the adjuster the wrong direction until Chris pointed out it adjusts in the opposite direction of carburetor engine. I was unable to find this info in the manual.

Thanks again for the help, Chris
 

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