Dont Destroy Your Motor

here
http://www.zddplus.com/index.htm

we have set up a test[*] and ran 10 identical husaberg 650 motors with idential rebuilts with and without this product.
once we tore the motors down in our state of the art facility we saw a huge difference.
so love you motor and give it what it needs
you're welcome
tuts
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[*]these were mind experiments, i'm not allowed near sharp objects

I hate additives, I always question how a small reletively unknown company can suddenly come up with the secret formula that none of the big oil companies knows or includes in their products? Personally, it makes me think "Snake Oil Salesman." I don't know if that is true, but it just seems that way. Since my 2005 KTM 525 has made it 35,000 miles of hard use with nothing more that regular oil changes (Motorex), I think I'll stick with that.

Yet another additive. Had no problems using straight engine oil for years so, personally, I'm happy with that.

Here's some others.
http://activ8lubricants.com/

http://www.team-zx1.com/Does-ZX1-Help-Fuel-Economy

http://www.slick50.com/

forgive me but do you have a video of the 10 engines running the test? What was the test? What were the specific results? You're statements seem very blanned and agree with the snake oil comment.

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But tuts :devil: .....
You forgot to give us the address to the Las Vegas PO box where we can send our cash only payments to receive this wonderful product.
Please hurry with the info.. I can not wait to use this wonderful product. I for one do not want to destroy any more engines unnecessarily. I am sure that I will want several bottles to use as stocking stuffers this Christmas.

Thanks for sharing this wonderful product and opportunity with us. :cheers:

Thanks tuts, I zinc it's a good idea to add a little zinc to the oil. I just want straight zinc though. Can I use vitamin capsules?

I guess you guys have been burned by new products before. Seems to me this guy is just sharing information that you can believe or not. He didn't ask you to send money or buy from him. Doesn't appear to be a spammer either, been around here over 10 years. I enjoy the information available on forums and hope I have the good sense to sift through the gimmick products. If everyone that had a product result or theory to share gets responded to like this, we can kiss the information stream goodbye.

I don't have a dog in this hunt and have never heard of the product.

If everyone bought in to the statements like "question how a relatively unknown company can suddenly come up with . . . .", then we should all believe that our bikes can't benefit from steering dampers, suspension revalves, auto clutches, etc. if any of this snake oil really were needed certainly the big motorcycle companies would have included them.

mikec

mikecarpenter said:

I guess you guys have been burned by new products before. Seems to me this guy is just sharing information that you can believe or not. He didn't ask you to send money or buy from him. Doesn't appear to be a spammer either, been around here over 10 years. I enjoy the information available on forums and hope I have the good sense to sift through the gimmick products. If everyone that had a product result or theory to share gets responded to like this, we can kiss the information stream goodbye.

I don't have a dog in this hunt and have never heard of the product.

If everyone bought in to the statements like "question how a relatively unknown company can suddenly come up with . . . .", then we should all believe that our bikes can't benefit from steering dampers, suspension revalves, auto clutches, etc. if any of this snake oil really were needed certainly the big motorcycle companies would have included them.

mikec

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Buy some Mike, run it in your bike(s) and then tell us how it works. The difference in this post and the others is that this guy seems to be advertising his product which raises the spectre of MOTIVATION. Mostly, what you find on these sites is riders and owners relating their personal experiences without the MOTIVATION of being an investor of the product the are reviewing. Just saying Mike, why don't you be the test subject and let us all know how it works out fo you.

If any of you knew or have followed tuts :devil: , you would know that he is just being tuts. He may or may not believe in the value of the product, and the part about the 10 Husaberg motors is pure fabrication. Read his post again and check the signature. There is a little leg pulling going on here.

1st my laptop is bad.
letter between j and l is bad so i'll use the 'x'
it broxe when we tearing apart some motors for a different test at our state of the art lab
here is some feedbacx
i appreciate the time most of you saved when reading the post, time management, yeaaaaa.
bacx to the product.....its not new and its been around for years
im sure you spent time at the website.
motors with 'older' designs, lixe the berg, need the oil to do certain things.
oil companies are removing these things
this puts these things bacx in.
as far as snaxe oil, well it might be.
our lab spent almost two days just finding the snaxes nipples but we havent been able to get out any oil yet.
did you xnow snaxes bite? well they do. and they are smart too. dont try using your 'snaxe' to tricx them, they will bite it. im trying to get someone to sucx out the posion right now but cant seem to find any volunteers.
i am not involved with this product at all. i dont sell it. but i have a bmw e30 which needs it so there you go.
yes i was banned from this site
yes i stole from the vendors at the force rides
yes i sold official husaberg wear on the classified section that didnt even exist
yes i gouged out my eyes after seeing taffy in the shower
yes i toox the rap so berger could xeep his reputation and get off scott free even though it was his idea
yes i was going to throw json in the river
but who among you has walxed a mile in my shoes?
none, well theyre flip flops really and i cant even do that myself.
i wish you all the best
youre welcome
tuts :devil:

berger said:

There is a little leg pulling going on...

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berger,
1st i dont refer to it as my little leg when its nicxname is j.t. [junior tuts]
2nd i have found and removed your camera from my shower
3rd please try to not to dilute this highly technical thread
4th checx your email i sent you some close up pics....
yeaaa baaabbbyyyy

Idle said:

Thanks tuts, I zinc it's a good idea to add a little zinc to the oil. I just want straight zinc though. Can I use vitamin capsules?

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sort of... when you do an oil change you have to put a zinc suppositry [sp] into the drain hole right before you put the drain plug bacx in. it helps to relax and taxe a few deep breaths before doing this. great question.

mikecarpenter said:

if any of this snake oil really were needed certainly the big motorcycle companies would have included them. mikec

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while it is a well xnown fact that manufactures so everything possible to extend the life of their product maybe here they just forgot.

brian011952 said:

Buy some Mike, run it in your bike(s) and then tell us how it works. The difference in this post and the others is that this guy seems to be advertising his product which raises the spectre of MOTIVATION. Mostly, what you find on these sites is riders and owners relating their personal experiences without the MOTIVATION of being an investor of the product the are reviewing. Just saying Mike, why don't you be the test subject and let us all know how it works out fo you.

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i am personally offended by this reply.
not because he thinxs its 'my' product...[its not]
not because he wants mixe to test it even though we have done extensive tests[*]
not because he has separted me from the regular group of riders
but because i have never been motivated in my life and im not starting now

I thinx you need a new xeyboard...... :bounce3:.....

Bergini said:

I thinx you need a new xeyboard...... :bounce3:.....

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Hey tuts, do you still have your size 14 red ruby slippers, exactly like dorothy on wiz of oz?
Just clicx the heals together and, poof, you're in kansas. Pick up a Keyboard while you're in there :wink:

simple mistake long walk to truck

if you take the ZDD additive yourself by mistake you get to swear a lot and appear slightly strange...it's called "terrets" over here but I believe you call it 'tuts' :lol: :lol:

Taffy

LOL! Evidently TUTS, can't find the T_TS on a snake, oh well, it's probably a lack of MOTIVATION.

if there was ever a case for a "Tuts sticxy", this is it :cheers:

Davo said:

Hey tuts, do you still have your size 14 red ruby slippers, exactly like dorothy on wiz of oz?

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oh yeah...
and a bedazzled matching tube top now as well
i was approached by dunlop tires who wanted to talx about being a sponsor, i explained it was a different xind of drag race
interested in a photo love? im worxing on a 2013 calendar also but all of this testing really taxes alot of time and effort.

ned37 said:

if there was ever a case for a "Tuts sticxy", this is it :cheers:

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thanxs ned and good to say hi.
actually there is no 'tuts sticxy' but there is a 'sticxy tuts'.
it usually occurs late friday night/sat morning as i try to get off the residue from the duct tape
for those that immediately grasped that one, your problem might be worse than mine
for those that didnt, ignorance is bliss
you cant unsee once you see.

Taffy said:

if you take the ZDD additive yourself by mistake you get to swear a lot and appear slightly strange...over here i too dress up as dorothy from the wizard of oz !! :lol: :lol: Taffy

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hey taffy, my brotha from anotha motha, glad to see you have come out also. but since you do business on this site you should probably go bacx and change the thread to say something witty and less revealling. do hope to see you on the next force ride, i will provide transport, room, mc as needed. hope to see as many of the og as possible. dont let mr smooths hottub ruuffy darquiris scare you away. as cypher found out, its something you can walx off. as he put it [or toox it, {oh naughty me}], it was lixe getting stabbed with thumbtacx
cheers mate. love ya.



but bacx to the op....
this sounds lixe exactly what the cam assemble needs
im not sure of the impact on the clutch but i have never wore out a berg clutch and even if it happened it cheaper than a cam and/or rocxers
the bergs probably place more demand on the cam assembly than even a near full race engine.
tuts
:devil:

The things that pop up in "Random Image" in the Gallery are sometimes interesting. Good to put a face to a name. So this is old tuts:



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