I am looking for the Idle emulsion tube that fits under the pilot jet for my PHM38. As far as I can tell, I am looking for Dellorto part #9980. In the Husaberg parts manual, it is called the Mixture jet tube. Does anyone know of a good place to buy carb parts that might actual stock this thing? Thanks.
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Thanks! I just gave them a call - the part was in stock and on its way. I have one of those 2002 models where this part was mysteriously missing from the carb. Hopefully I'll be able to start the bike now without having my wife tow me behind her car!
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I understand that this topic is getting on but I also am working on a 02 fe400e that has never run or started as well as I think it should.The carb is completely standard... needle K51,#40 slide,185 MJ,33 pilot,45 starter jet,Dr270 nozzle.clip in 3rd position.
This carb also does not have the mixture tube above the pilot jet as mogly406 describes.This part is missing and as far as I know it was never in this carb from new.. only 650 km on this bike from new.
My question is what conditions does this missing part produce.
Anyone else have experience with this missing part? Thx NSMAN
This carb also does not have the mixture tube above the pilot jet as mogly406 describes.This part is missing and as far as I know it was never in this carb from new.. only 650 km on this bike from new.
My question is what conditions does this missing part produce.
Anyone else have experience with this missing part? Thx NSMAN
NSMAN - I don't really understand the function of the mixture tube, but I can tell you that after I installed it, it fixed my hard start problems. My FE400 was near impossible to start hot or cold and now it is a 1-4 kick cold and 1 kick hot. My berg, like the one you are working on, is bone stock right down to the jetting, so I am pretty sure it never came with the mixture tube either. My carb is US spec so I have a 190 MJ and 38 PJ - but other than that it is set up the same as what you are working on. The tube only cost $6.50, so you might as well give it a try. I tried everything else in the Doc (starting procedure, adjust valves, spark, etc) and the mixture tube was pretty much the only remaining thing that I hadn't done. Good luck - let us know how you make out.
Funny,after reading this thread I decided to check my carb for said mixture jet tube... No tube under the PJ. Go figure, I know I've never taken it out. I called up the folks at Herdan and have a new needle, needle jet and mixture jet tube on the way. I'll report back when I get the thing put in to the carb an tell you how it works out.
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I brought home a FX470e (02) this evening from the shop, 40 mm dellorto.This bike always started pretty good off the button and kick start and i wanted to see if it had a mixture tube above the pilot jet.
I found that it was so equiped and in short order I installed the mixture tube in the 38mm on the 400e.Put everything back in place ,.this bike has been sitting for 6-8 weeks and even with this old gas it started up off the choke.
I let it warm up and reset the pilot screw mixture and idle speed and took it for a ride....finally it responds as it should,nice round idle and good bottom end snap.
Also i let it cool down abit and again same result ....whoopee!!!!
I found that it was so equiped and in short order I installed the mixture tube in the 38mm on the 400e.Put everything back in place ,.this bike has been sitting for 6-8 weeks and even with this old gas it started up off the choke.
I let it warm up and reset the pilot screw mixture and idle speed and took it for a ride....finally it responds as it should,nice round idle and good bottom end snap.
Also i let it cool down abit and again same result ....whoopee!!!!
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risky
i agree with you it probably is part of it but how many times have we got to say to members "try these things and then tell us!". it's amazing how many things people don't try. i had all this on TT. complete mistrust but prepared to chuck dollars at some arsehole like a gaggle of geese. first nothing then everyone tries it all at once.
the correct TDC has been known for years and so have so many other things - such as the above.
next week
a quality iridium plug
the week after
drilling the dell orto in the PA and MA tubes....
BTW
i'm going to try and put together a chapter in the doc on all the things that help starting. but i can only talk of my machine, it's only ofter the regular lads do something and it works that we get the data (pronounced day-ta!!!) that we need.
regards
Taffy
i agree with you it probably is part of it but how many times have we got to say to members "try these things and then tell us!". it's amazing how many things people don't try. i had all this on TT. complete mistrust but prepared to chuck dollars at some arsehole like a gaggle of geese. first nothing then everyone tries it all at once.
the correct TDC has been known for years and so have so many other things - such as the above.
next week
a quality iridium plug
the week after
drilling the dell orto in the PA and MA tubes....
BTW
i'm going to try and put together a chapter in the doc on all the things that help starting. but i can only talk of my machine, it's only ofter the regular lads do something and it works that we get the data (pronounced day-ta!!!) that we need.
regards
Taffy
Received my parts from www.herdan.com. Parts included a new needle, needle jet, mixture tub jet, and a small washer that fits over the needle clip. I didn't "need" to replace the needle and needle jet just yet but figured while I'm in there... I kept the others for spare.
I had him send the washer and fit it over the needle clip due to the fact that I could move the needle what seemed to be a "half clip" distance up and down, and yes, I made sure the needle holder was tight. After installing the washer and needle holder the needle no longer moves the "half clip" distance. As I was mentioning it they made it appear as if it wasn't their first experience with this phenomena. If it mattes or not, I don't have to worry about it now.
In any event, I installed the new needle, (with washer over the clip), needle jet, and mixture jet tube underneath the #35PJ. Fit the tank and fuel lines, and the bike started right away with the choke on. Starting in the choke has never been an issue so I wasn't counting my chickens just yet. I let the bike idle for all of 30 seconds, shut it off and waited 15 minutes. After the wait time I hopped on the bike and fired it up first kick without the choke. Glory be! I thought it was "beginners luck", so to speak, so I let the bike set for an hour and fired it up first kick with no choke.
So add my '03 FE400 to the list of bikes with a missing mixture jet tube and f'd-up timing marks. At face value it's night and day, I'm riding this weekend so I see how it goes.
I had him send the washer and fit it over the needle clip due to the fact that I could move the needle what seemed to be a "half clip" distance up and down, and yes, I made sure the needle holder was tight. After installing the washer and needle holder the needle no longer moves the "half clip" distance. As I was mentioning it they made it appear as if it wasn't their first experience with this phenomena. If it mattes or not, I don't have to worry about it now.
In any event, I installed the new needle, (with washer over the clip), needle jet, and mixture jet tube underneath the #35PJ. Fit the tank and fuel lines, and the bike started right away with the choke on. Starting in the choke has never been an issue so I wasn't counting my chickens just yet. I let the bike idle for all of 30 seconds, shut it off and waited 15 minutes. After the wait time I hopped on the bike and fired it up first kick without the choke. Glory be! I thought it was "beginners luck", so to speak, so I let the bike set for an hour and fired it up first kick with no choke.
So add my '03 FE400 to the list of bikes with a missing mixture jet tube and f'd-up timing marks. At face value it's night and day, I'm riding this weekend so I see how it goes.
All I did is ship it to Lineaweaver and he did his magic on the carb, which involved adding the mixture screw as well as putting a Keihin jet. Bike went from running ok to running awesome. I guess you can do some of it yourself or rely on a pro like Dale.
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froggy
we got you to send it to dale coz we'd had enough of listening to your continuqal bleeting and whinging and moaning! don't try to re-write history fella otherwise i'll just have to keep regurgitating this info!
could have done it yourself but like your camchain we all gave in and submitted whilst sobbing incessantly (i also started babbling).
regards
Taffy
we got you to send it to dale coz we'd had enough of listening to your continuqal bleeting and whinging and moaning! don't try to re-write history fella otherwise i'll just have to keep regurgitating this info!
could have done it yourself but like your camchain we all gave in and submitted whilst sobbing incessantly (i also started babbling).
regards
Taffy
Gee, who rocked your cage, Taffy?
The carb I sent to Dale was in bad shape, and he fixed it good. One of the issues originally with this bike was a bad carb, and you guys were all defensive of Bobzilla at that point when there is documented evidence that he had issues with it as well, so just get back in your corner. He even rode his DRZ went he could not get it to work and next he sold it to me, and I got to learn the hard way how to make it work.
As for the camchain and the camwheel work I am doing right now, I don't see what the problem is with asking questions. I just want to get it right. Oh what a crime.
Not my fault if you've got problems and need to vent by picking up on someone in a forum. You might want to join a martial arts academy, or visit Ireland or something, cuz each time I went there I got drenched with enough cold water to calm my nerves for 1 year and some.
WTF :?:
The carb I sent to Dale was in bad shape, and he fixed it good. One of the issues originally with this bike was a bad carb, and you guys were all defensive of Bobzilla at that point when there is documented evidence that he had issues with it as well, so just get back in your corner. He even rode his DRZ went he could not get it to work and next he sold it to me, and I got to learn the hard way how to make it work.
As for the camchain and the camwheel work I am doing right now, I don't see what the problem is with asking questions. I just want to get it right. Oh what a crime.
Not my fault if you've got problems and need to vent by picking up on someone in a forum. You might want to join a martial arts academy, or visit Ireland or something, cuz each time I went there I got drenched with enough cold water to calm my nerves for 1 year and some.
WTF :?:
LeFrog said:
I figure I can put a $7.00 jet and a $0.40 washer in my carb myself... 8)
Now, if I get to the point where I'd like a pro to tune it then I'll ship it off... Until then I'm ecstatic that I woke up this morning, walked into my garage and fire the bike up 1 kick, no choke... I swore I heard angels singing in the background. :lol:
kzoo said:
I guess you can, although as for the jet, Dale had to do some drilling. I was impatient with that one and did not want to tinker too much with it. Knowing I had a trusty carb from then on made me concentrate on the other things that make a Berg work at its best.
I never use the choke either, actually I have never been able to start this bike on the choke.
Well, I rode this weekend with my newly added mixture jet tube. Had all my riding buddies astonished at the first kick fire ups all day. $7.00 piece of brass... Amazing. Seemed to smooth out the throttle as well, maybe that was just perception due to the fact that I didn't get beat up from jumping a kicking all day. :lol:
When I was putting together the jet kit for the Sherco 4t last year I got all the jets from Dellorto UK, then I came across a German Dellorto site on the net couldn't believe how inexpensive they were compared to the UK company, I've tried to find out who they are for this post but can't find them at the moment but I will let all know when I do.
Regards
Sparks.
Regards
Sparks.
kzoo said:
Is there any chance a link to this thread could be posted in the doc? Perhaps some special note could be posted about this very topic in the "hard start guide" which is primarily an electrical trouble shoot guide?
Signed,
Tired of kicking the ^&*$ out of my 650 (monti)
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