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Hi, Ive purchased another burg, but it wasnt running. Suposed stator problems according to previous owner. Has had new one fitted or rewound, not sure. Have assembled it all but still no spark. It is a 9th of 98 make and has the later SEM ignition system. Can anybody help and does anyone have an appropriate workshop manual or know where I can download one from
 
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98 make and has the later SEM ignition system
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maybe a 99? is the stator in the cover or under the flywheel? what are the ohm values on the stator?
 
Hi, The bike is dated 9th month of 98. The stator is on the outside of the flywheel, mounted to the cover plate. I have a 97 berg and it is mounted behind the fly wheel quite different.
The bike is serial numbered as number 3 so it would be made for the 99 race season, however it is stll manufactured in 98. As yet havent checked the resistances anywhere, but have since found out that it had an aftermarket stator fitted not rewound so I need to check its make also, the previous owner also hated burgs so at present its a bit of a head spin trying to trace and repair its problems
 
hi there

i have just read that you might be getting problems from an aftermarket stator.
well if it turns out you are and you want to replace it with a sem, i am an sem rewinder and i have 6 stators for sale that come freshly rewound and with 12months warranty

cheers kris
 
Hi guys,
The readings from the stator are red to green- source coil 3.16 ohms
Green to black- pulse coil 171.5 ohms
Have checked several times and hasnt changed not that it was expected but this seems to be the problem
could you give me the correct readings and any test figures for the coil as well. This would be much appreciated
 
look for 2,700 minimum on the red to black.

sounds like it has had it?

did the stator you found have SEM written on it or is it an open stator (like a radial engine)? where you can see each spool of copper windings? if the latter it is an electrex stator and it may have knocked your coil out as well. first things first though, check the stator

Taffy
 
Thanks Taffy,
It looks as you described open like a radial engine. Ive only kicked a coupole of times at slow speed with no spark, plug out, so hopefully I havent hurt it. Would I be better off to try and get a sem stator as this one is really an unknown. Is there anyway that I can Identify it as an electrex for sure
 
well it is an electrex. they also pack up when dipped in water and left to rust!

the only answer as far as I'm concerned is to get a reconditioned electrex and then hope you get a spark.

you can send it to me with the coil and i'll check it on a running bike. I have a FE400e here I hope to have running by the end of next week or mon/tue the week after. what I do is get my ike running sweet and then try all the coils and stators that customers have sent in.

regarding the 'no non-SEM rule' well I can be lax on that as I was given 4-5 about two months ago. :D :D

up to you where you go though...

regards

Taffy
 
was it actually 3.16 or 3.16k ?
if it was 3.16 then i would start with the stator as this needs replacing anyway wether you stay with electrex or go back to sem, and if you have no joy then get your cdi/coil tested, but with a value as low as 3.16 then i think it is safe to say this is yor problem.
if you want to go back to SEM i can have 1 in the post on its way to you on wednesday ( it would be tuesday but its new years day lol )

cheers kris
 
Yeah sorry that should have read 3.16k which puts it in range. Helps if you read the scale correctly. Im going to fit it again and attempt to start it. As I said before ive only turned it over slowly and wasnt aware that they may not produce a spark until a higher cranking speed. Im used to jap stuff wich will produce a spark at quite low rpm. So fingers crossed and will let you all know what happens
 
i thought 3.16 was a strange reading but hey i took in a broken sem the other week that had 123,000 ohm between red/black wires so anything is possible lol.
previously to check for a spark on a husaberg i have took the spark plug out and left it hanging from the cap touching the engine then i had a friend watching the spark plug while i kicked it over.
hope this helps

cheers kris
 
Thanks Kris,
Yeah tried all that and some still no spark. So I guess its going to get expensive from now on.

Cheers Eric
 
hi eric

its not as bad as you think
if it was the electrex stator and you wanted to replace it with a sem i could of supplied it for £200, but your stator is fine and you can just get your cdi repaired instead, taffy is the only guy that does this and im not sure how much he charges but it must be a similar price around the £200-£250 mark.
and a bonus to this is that he repairs them to take the electrex stator so no worrries of the cdi burning out again.

1 thing before you send anything for repair are you sure you dont have a defective kill switch ?? you can check this by unplugging the orange wire coming from the cdi, put a bit of tape on it so it dont touch the frame and try again . as i had this same problem with my supermoto that i purchased recently , turns out it was a faulty ignition switch , it wouldnt start even with the stator and cdi from my motox bike wich i know works fine so i pulled the orange wire from the cdi and it started within a couple of kicks and i traced it back to the ignition switch .
hope this helps

cheers kris
 
Hi Kris
Done all that. The bike has been stripped of all its wiring and light and switch gear.No ign switch just the kill switch. Have checked kill swtch and cicuit its ok and have also tried it disconnected no difference. A bit peeved but I new this before I bought it. Got info on an auto elec who can test the coil etc and its cdi and circuitry, so will send off and see what it says! It would be nice if PVL ignitions made a setup for the Bergs but they dont seem to touch anything that had a SEM ignition on it. Do you know why the eletrex stators burn out the coil Do they voltage spike or something and if my coil is ok is there anything i can do to stop it fritzing it.

cheers Eric
 
have you checked the coil end conection of ht lead theres a screw that can sanp & cause a spark issue i found the spark gets lost jumping across the faulty conection
 
I have an electrex stator in my 1995 and it works great. It does say on their website -
" This unit features built in protection to prevent damage to the original SEM CDI/HT coil. "
So maybe they did have an issue with earlier versions.
But I think we should be happy that this company is producing products for husaberg (and lots of other vintage bikes as well).
I think there has been plenty of negative older postings regarding electrex and really think it is time to stop. We should support them.
Now if a company can start making reproduction plastic kits for these bikes that would be really great.
 
Krowy_123 said:
have you checked the coil end conection of ht lead theres a screw that can sanp & cause a spark issue i found the spark gets lost jumping across the faulty conection
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Were you in a coma for a year or something?

This thread is exactly one year old today, its your first post, and you joined right before this thread started.....

Anyways, welcome to the forum :bounce3: :cheers:
 
huscan said:
I have an electrex stator in my 1995 and it works great. It does say on their website -
" This unit features built in protection to prevent damage to the original SEM CDI/HT coil. "
So maybe they did have an issue with earlier versions.
But I think we should be happy that this company is producing products for husaberg (and lots of other vintage bikes as well).
I think there has been plenty of negative older postings regarding electrex and really think it is time to stop. We should support them.
Now if a company can start making reproduction plastic kits for these bikes that would be really great.
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another daft comment. two of these people once joined the site and hit it with emails saying how good Electrex products are, it turned out to be the same man from the same computer. so let's take their honest word for it shall we?

if I see a relatively new Electrex stator and it has knocked out an Ignition Module i'm going to say it.

....and you want new plastics... FFS :angry:

Taffy
 
Bergini said:
Krowy_123 said:
have you checked the coil end conection of ht lead theres a screw that can sanp & cause a spark issue i found the spark gets lost jumping across the faulty conection
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Were you in a coma for a year or something?

This thread is exactly one year old today, its your first post, and you joined right before this thread started.....

Anyways, welcome to the forum :bounce3: :cheers:
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You've learned me to look at the date closer I saw dec 28 & thought it was this year indeed to give my head a wobble but if it helps anyone else then it's worth me looking the fool happy times to come
 
I was just pullin your chain Krowy_123, really it gave me a good head scratch and a laugh, I've been know to pull up a few dead threads in my day too, i know you meant well :D
 

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