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THELIMNT,
Oils with excessive amounts of Moly can cause slippage in wet clutches and should be avoided. The manufacturer advises a fully synthetic 5W-50 weight oil and there is nothing wrong with going that route except it can get a bit pricey at $10 a quart. Many of the users on this site and others have taken the advise of one Dale Lineaweaver and used a Cheveron conventional Dino oil by the name "Delo 400". Perhaps you have herd of it before??? It is readily available in the US just about anywhere. I pick it up at WalMart for about $8-$8.50 a gallon and will give me 4 oil changes. At $2 an oil change I have absolutely no problem dropping the oil after only riding 25miles on easy trails... great piece of mind no? The Delo is a diesel formula and works well, I have been using it almost 3 years w/o any problems, many other users here would testify to the same. *** It has been conveyed to us by Dale that a new formula of Delo hit the shelves recently, 4-5months ago, and does contain small doses of Moly. I have continued to use the oil as have many others with no adverse affects. Dale has also said in his opinion that the traces of Moly are so small that they are almost insignificant in wet clutch applications and should have no adverse affects. I have seen none. In case you are wondering, Dale was once an employee of Cheverons research and development sector and is respected for his contributions in motorcycle engineering. One other suggestion is that Shells "Rotella" brand diesel oil is almost identical to that of Cheveron Delo 400, you could use whats best for you. There are many other threads on this topic if you care to do a search through the forums, hope this has been of some help, take care.
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Oils with excessive amounts of Moly can cause slippage in wet clutches and should be avoided. The manufacturer advises a fully synthetic 5W-50 weight oil and there is nothing wrong with going that route except it can get a bit pricey at $10 a quart. Many of the users on this site and others have taken the advise of one Dale Lineaweaver and used a Cheveron conventional Dino oil by the name "Delo 400". Perhaps you have herd of it before??? It is readily available in the US just about anywhere. I pick it up at WalMart for about $8-$8.50 a gallon and will give me 4 oil changes. At $2 an oil change I have absolutely no problem dropping the oil after only riding 25miles on easy trails... great piece of mind no? The Delo is a diesel formula and works well, I have been using it almost 3 years w/o any problems, many other users here would testify to the same. *** It has been conveyed to us by Dale that a new formula of Delo hit the shelves recently, 4-5months ago, and does contain small doses of Moly. I have continued to use the oil as have many others with no adverse affects. Dale has also said in his opinion that the traces of Moly are so small that they are almost insignificant in wet clutch applications and should have no adverse affects. I have seen none. In case you are wondering, Dale was once an employee of Cheverons research and development sector and is respected for his contributions in motorcycle engineering. One other suggestion is that Shells "Rotella" brand diesel oil is almost identical to that of Cheveron Delo 400, you could use whats best for you. There are many other threads on this topic if you care to do a search through the forums, hope this has been of some help, take care.
Regards,
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mr sandskipper sir, i am coughing up 30.00 bux for 1 litre .is the oil you mentioned available in other countrys under another name perhaps?
difficult question but i thought i would ask anyway . 777
difficult question but i thought i would ask anyway . 777
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caltex product , thanks for that. now i can change my oil every ride 8)
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LeFrog said:
Yes!
Sorry, off topic again.
Dale,
You've so highly recommended Delo for the Husaberg, I'm wondering if it's okay to run in my Ford 4.6. (Kinda like Froggy's question). Actually, I've been using it the past two oil changes so it's probably a little late to ask although the old girl seems to like the Delo 400 15w-40. My manual calls for "Motorcraft SAE 5w-20 Super Premium Motor oil" so I've been a bit paranoid lately.
Your answer is appreciated!
Thanks,
Log
Dale,
You've so highly recommended Delo for the Husaberg, I'm wondering if it's okay to run in my Ford 4.6. (Kinda like Froggy's question). Actually, I've been using it the past two oil changes so it's probably a little late to ask although the old girl seems to like the Delo 400 15w-40. My manual calls for "Motorcraft SAE 5w-20 Super Premium Motor oil" so I've been a bit paranoid lately.
Your answer is appreciated!
Thanks,
Log
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logjump said:
Hi Log,
Rest assured your Ford is well protected with the DELO 400.
For what it may be worth:
I use a pure synthetic for Arctic conditions and / or air cooled performance engines where head temperatures often exceed 450 degrees Fahrenheit.
Synthetics most often provide for a wider Viscosity Index and resist thermal breakdown better than their petroleum counterparts. The later being the primary claim to "extended oil change intervals".
Personally, I prefer to change oil a bit more often and benefit from the petroleum extreme pressure package then that of squeaking out a few more miles between service intervals using a synthetic.
Kind Regards,
Dale
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"Is there a possibility of an emissions issue using a diesel spec oil in a gasoline engine?"
A most excellent question!
Indeed, emissions do come in to play. Fortunately, I have yet to encounter OBD2 compliance issues using said oil.
However, such is a real possibility as the EPA noose does continue to tighten.
Sincerely,
Dale
A most excellent question!
Indeed, emissions do come in to play. Fortunately, I have yet to encounter OBD2 compliance issues using said oil.
However, such is a real possibility as the EPA noose does continue to tighten.
Sincerely,
Dale
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husabutt said:
Over time and / or regarding an already tired engine such is indeed a remote possibility.
Primarily, the EPA wishes to reduce heavy metal traces. (ie EP additives)
Cars are often considered a commodity and when broken and / or out of compliance an inconvenience. Broken trucks, trains, aviation and military support vehicles are another issue, hence the double standard. :shock:
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THELMINT said:
Personally, I believe their are lubricants which are better suited than others for a particular task. Petroleum, Mineral, Synthetic, Vegetable, etc.
Each has a place.
One never knows how chemicals will react when blended unless said combination has been thoroughly tested. Such being said, most "main stream" synthetic lubricants will not present a threat when converting from a petroleum based product.
I suspect "engine shock" with regard to the aviation industry had more to do with liability protection than anything else.
Hope this answered your question.
Sincerely,
Dale
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