FE570 vs. 530exc-r comparison

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Hi,
Team FTB asked me for pros and cons of the fe570 compared with my 530exc-r so i thought i would post it here.


It really is early days at the mo as i would like to get a full on 4 hour enduro race under my belt with some lap times to compare, but here goes.
The first thing was total disbelief that a bike could be this well suspended straight out of the crate, but this berg has better suspension, as it is now, than my 530 has after 18 months of changing springs and trying to dial in all the clickers. No flappy front or snaking rear. Apart from sags and preload , i am inclined to leave the clickers alone until i use a track or race.

The 530 had good lugability, traction and a mellow friendly powerband. Well the berg 570 is much the same and the gear ratios are the same, it has that extra 60cc of power which will stretch your arms if you wind the throttle on thro the gears. The biggest difference is the responsiveness of the berg power when coupled with the EFI, it responds instantly and is very smooth.

This brings me to firing up the bikes and the 530 ktm was a pig to get going. I did have the dealer change a shim in the starting gear which helped but if you pushed the choke in too soon , it would cut out, and then you had to use a combination of kickstart and button to fire it up. Once started it would be fine all day, but this is a chore you dont have to worry about with the FI on the 570, it fires up with one or two pushes on the button, every time ,without fail.

As with all four strokes 450cc and above, they are ok at speed , but when the pace slows through snotty tight stuff or even in a straight line, the inertia/rotational mass comes into play and this makes them a bit harder to handle than the smaller bore 4st and 2st to the point where the bike may try and take you for a ride instead of vice versa.
So, does the new engine configuration help with this? Yes, definitely.
Its not a miracle cure for big bore bikes, but it does make it far more manageable than the ktm530 in this respect and i think , easier than the ktm450, which, considering a difference of 120cc is pretty remarkable.

The other thing the big berg does very well and far better than the 530 is changing direction or changing lines at speed. Again , this must be down to the engine configuration, a lighter front end and maybe the fact that the piston is travelling in the same direction as the bike, i dont know, but the difference is very noticeable.

The ergos seating/standing positions are very good on the ktm530, but they are also spot on with the fe570 and you have the extra ground clearance for rocks.
I do get the slight feeling that the back end on the berg could let go and is not so predictable as the 530 or it could be that dialling in that extra power to the back wheel just needs a bit more care with 570cc.
Trying to lift the back end of the berg out of mud or a rut is far harder than the 530, even harder than a xr650 and the grab handles are useless, so the answer is dont get stuck!

Servicing on the fe570, i.e. oil change, filters, seat removal etc is easier than the 530, although you do need to remove the whole shock to alter preload.
Fuel consumption/tank range on the berg is not as good, plus i miss having reserve. This could be an issue when racing.
Really, i'm nitpicking now.
For me , its a no brainer. Go buy a Berg

Cheers,
Nick
 
Hi Nick

good observations. The bikes do start very easily. Last weekend, I drove 2 hrs in -20c weather, and the bike started after 3-4 seconds of cranking, straight off the truck. I had to test it, and we were all surprised. The 550 took minimal kicks to start, but sat with an extention from the exhaust of my truck, with it on high idle.

The engine configuration certainly does shift weight rearward and is noticed not only lifting the bike onto a stand, but in very tight, slow ( trials like ) situations. I could feel the weight between my ankles more than the 550. However, don't be afraid to let the rear hang out, it works better than my 550 at arcing through a corner. I am spiked up with Trelleborgs, which allows more drift, but comparing the bikes back to back, the 570 handles everything so much better. Permagrin!!!!

Do you find that your 570 has less kick on sudden hits to the rear shock than the 530?

Gotta love the new bike. A buddy rode my 550 for 15 minutes, then rode the 570 for about the same. He came off grinning, not saying much, except that he was glad that he had ordered a new 570. He remounted the 550 and as he rode away, he grunted as if someone had kicked him in teh tenders.....it takes 5 feet on the old bike after riding the new bike to realize the difference. And its not suttle due to sharp footpegs...its a HUGE difference. I can't wait for the temps to warm up to get a real good ride in.
 
Sounds all good for the 570. Let's hear from Dale now on the 550 vs 570. He owns them both. Then we need to hear from power on the 650 vs 570.
Pollo
 
Then we need to hear from power on the 650 vs 570.

Hberg aust please send me a 570 Ill test the crapper out of it :)

bet I can break the rear hub inside 6 months and a few other bits
 
With all the additional weight on the rear of the bike they are talking about , you may just be right bushm.
I was wondering. Can we bore it out to a 610? Is it possible? We need it done soon for an experiment :x
Pollo
 
Re: RE: FE570 vs. 530exc-r comparison

pollo said:
With all the additional weight on the rear of the bike they are talking about , you may just be right bushm.
I was wondering. Can we bore it out to a 610? Is it possible? We need it done soon for an experiment :x
Pollo

It exist a 610 kit to the Ktm 530 exc, And from what i hear the rotating bits should be the same. But its not confirmed.

http://www.husaberg.org/index.php?name= ... 3096#83096

Regards
 
RE: Re: RE: FE570 vs. 530exc-r comparison

I also want to hear about the power in the 570 vs old 650.

Regards
 
dynochart of fe570 vs 530

hi all happy new year how hp make 570 vs 530 look at this dynochart
regards

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Re: dynochart of fe570 vs 530

tolis said:
hi all happy new year how hp make 570 vs 530 look at this dynochart
regards

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First dynochart on FE570 that I seen. I just think there should have been a little more differens. Say maybe 5-6 hp. but we don't know if they are using different cam yet. would like to see the sparepart manual on the FE to compare the parts betwen them. Also it look as they have done the mapping, so they flatten out the powercurve on top, both Hp and torgh don't peak that is normal, I think it would look something like this if it was right unrestricted.

Regards
 

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RE: Re: dynochart of fe570 vs 530

that's a strange torque curve!

did dracula have his din-dins?

LOL!!

Taffy
 

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