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Guys, I have an opportunity to pick up both of these bikes as a package deal, but was curious if there were any reason I should stay away from either, or both, of them? Other than the fact that they are both early 2000s machines, is there anything inherently wrong with them?
I seem to remember being told the 470 was probably the worst size Husaberg ever produced. Is that true or am I remembering something that never happened? lol.
A 470 was the first Husaberg I ever owned and was the reason I joined this forum several years ago as brucifer. I never did get that particular bike running and sold it.

As always, any input or information is greatly appreciated.
Thanks guys!
 
The first year of production for the second-generation motors, 2001, was by far the worst. Motors from late 2002 were better as they featured a changed internal gear profile that reduced drag, which was a step in the right direction for getting the electric start to work. However, it wasn't quite there yet. The 2003 models were slightly improved but still had the SEM ignition. Models from 2004 to 2008 were relatively issue-free and are considered great bikes.

If you're set on a 2001 470, I have a pristine one with '03 rockers and a factory-warranted torque limiter replacement that I'd like to sell to you for a nominal fee. A six-pack of Pliny the Elder and a drive to San Diego could make you the next proud owner of the worst-engineered motorcycle of the 2000s. Think of it as a collector's item that loses value every year.
 
The first year of production for the second-generation motors, 2001, was by far the worst. Motors from late 2002 were better as they featured a changed internal gear profile that reduced drag, which was a step in the right direction for getting the electric start to work. However, it wasn't quite there yet. The 2003 models were slightly improved but still had the SEM ignition. Models from 2004 to 2008 were relatively issue-free and are considered great bikes.

If you're set on a 2001 470, I have a pristine one with '03 rockers and a factory-warranted torque limiter replacement that I'd like to sell to you for a nominal fee. A six-pack of Pliny the Elder and a drive to San Diego could make you the next proud owner of the worst-engineered motorcycle of the 2000s. Think of it as a collector's item that loses value every year.
Thanks for that husabutt, you truly made me laugh out loud. lol.
I appreciate the offer, but I'm really looking for a 650 that needs work. The gentleman who has these bikes answered an ad I had on CL wanting a project Husaberg, but I specified 650cc. He's only asking $800 for both the bikes, and I guess they're both runners. Nice guy. He's 70 years old and still racing flat track, up until recently on a 501. He's got a bunch of parts as well as, I think, another FE400 that's plated. He's getting out of Husabergs and wants to sell off everything. Evidently, a friend of his gave him a 2017 KTM, so he's riding that now.
 
there's nothing in that 470 that won't let you down if it can.

The 400 is probably a nice little machine. everything in 2001 though was rough....

Taffy
 
Well, just spoke to the gentleman again and evidently, the 470 has had some upgrades done to it. I guess he did a 2003 spec. clutch deal, cam sprocket and cam chain tensioner. Also has an FCR carb.
While we were on the phone, he spun it over on the e-start. Sounded good. Not labored or grindy.
The 400 has a 2003 engine in it.
There's a possibility I may go a little deeper in this deal and get more parts as well.
 
Going to make the purchase tomorrow. I have to admit, I'm kind of excited about acquiring these bikes. Hope it isn't short lived. lol.
The seller is in San Francisco, and I am about 270 miles north. We are going to meet in a little town called Willits, roughly halfway between us.
I will follow up with an assessment of the bikes once in my possession.
 
Okay, well got the bikes and as is usually the case, they are rougher than they appeared in the pics. And I expected that. The 470 had a nice blue seat in the pic but when he brought it to our meeting place, it had a torn yellow seat on it. Oh well. It looks like the bikes were kept outside as there is some rust on the steel parts and light corrosion on the aluminum parts. The plastic on the 400 is pretty sun bleached, the 470, not so bad. Both bikes have engine oil buildup under the engines and on the skid plates.
I was hoping for better, but they're both project bikes.
I was pretty stoked as the previous owner hit the start button on the 470 while it was still in the back of his truck, and it came immediately to life and sat there and idled. Unfortunately, it sounded like a box of rocks on the clutch side.
When I got home, I fired up the 470 and road a quick little loop around my yard and it felt good. Engine was responsive and it shifted and clutched well, only took it to 3rd. And again, it sounded like a box of rocks.
Pushed the bikes into my garage and proceded to ponder the source of the rattling. I did notice the oil was overfull and when I opened the oil fill cap to have a look at the cam chain, I was hit with the unmistakable odor of gasoline. Must have been getting past the needle and seat of the carb. while parked.
Anyway, I poked at the cam chain, and I was able to detect some play so, proceded to remove the cam chain tensioner after removing the muffler and mid pipe. I did remove the internal tension spring first. When I got it out, it was at full extension. Also, the aluminum end cap piece was beat to all heck. Okay, well, done there for now.
Didn't start the 400, however it does spin over off the estart and sounds as it should while turning over. The battery is too low and was not spinning it as fast as it should.

On a positive note however, both bikes have clean titles and are both registered, for off-road use. And to correct something I said earlier. He had told me that the 400 was a 2001 model with a 2003 engine, well, he was referring to another bike he has that is street plated. This 400 is a 2003 model.

Not sure what I'm going to do with these bikes just yet. They both need to be pulled down, inspected, and replace whatever needs replacing. The 470 probably needs an engine rebuild. The 400, I won't know until I monkey with it a bit.
Unfortunately, I do not have the time right now to do the work that these bikes need. So, what I'll probably do is just shove them in a storage shed here on the property until I'm freed up a bit. I may end up concentrating on building the 400 and possibly sell the 470. We'll see.
 
Is there enough new parts still around to rebuild either of these engines?
 
pretty much - yes, intermediate shafts are finished for the late-2002s onwards but plenty of 2001 and early 2002s.
single ball bearing balancers are still Ok; which those two will be.

again, i can do an early clutch drum but not a late one now.

Taffy
 
pretty much - yes, intermediate shafts are finished for the late-2002s onwards but plenty of 2001 and early 2002s.
single ball bearing balancers are still Ok; which those two will be.

again, i can do an early clutch drum but not a late one now.

Taffy
Awesome! That's great to hear, Taffy. I'm sure I will be in contact with you when I get going on these bikes.
 
Okay, put a battery charger on the 400 and she fired up! The engine, overall, sounds very good. Not at all rattly like the 470. Rode it a bit; it runs great! Shifts, clutches excellent.
It will suddenly die while idling like you hit the kill switch but will fire right back up. Not sure what that's about.
So, the 400 is a keeper and I believe I have a buyer for the 470. He's about 3 hours away and is coming here tomorrow.
 
Shoot. Well, I guess I'll wait for it to become a real nuisance then do something about it.
I did however drain the float bowl and it starts easier now and hasn't died while idling since....yet. I'm hoping it may have been some water in the gas from sitting with our crap ethanol California gas in the carb.
 
I have an '02 FE400 that I picked up a few years ago. It had been used as a supermoto for a while. An engine rebuild was attempted by a previous owner but a cam sprocket bolt came loose and really messed up the head. The bike came with a new head so I put it all together, powder coated the frame, installed 21/18 wheels, some plastics I had laying around, a Rekluse auto clutch I also had and began to ride it. Had some transmission issues that I traced to an improperly installed shift detent arm. I fixed that and it improved but still has a lot of clattering coming from the transmission when in neutral and first gear. I'm suspecting a bent shift fork. Been riding it for years this way and it's been nothing but 100% reliable despite all the clattering. I ride it on mountain single track, Rubicon Trail, high desert singletrack and twotrack, and even motocross. It's a fantastic bike and gives up NOTHING to bikes more than 20 years newer! Definitely not as quick as the bigger engines but still very satisfying to ride.

I recently picked up a fresh '02 470 engine that I'm going to mount in an '03 chassis that had a tired old '95 or '96 vintage 600 engine in it. Can't wait to compare the two.

If I'm not mistaken, the 470, being identical to the 400 except with a larger bore, is really only cam follower bearings, single row counterbalancer, and weak starter away from being just as reliable as the later engines. I plan to remove the counterbalancer when it starts to go bad because I have a 501 that's had the counterbalancer removed and I can't really tell the difference.
 
Well, the 400 WAS a keeper, until the gentleman who bought the 470 wanted the 400 as well. I had mentioned to him when we first talked on the 470 that I could let the 400 go for a good price too. Well, he took it. He's a really nice guy who has a bunch of 2001-2003 era bikes. He also has RFS era KTMs as well. He told me he's a member here too, but I neglected to ask his username.
I'm still going to acquire another Husaberg, but I really want a 650. I'm not going anywhere. :)
 
Well, the 400 WAS a keeper, until the gentleman who bought the 470 wanted the 400 as well. I had mentioned to him when we first talked on the 470 that I could let the 400 go for a good price too. Well, he took it. He's a really nice guy who has a bunch of 2001-2003 era bikes. He also has RFS era KTMs as well. He told me he's a member here too, but I neglected to ask his username.
I'm still going to acquire another Husaberg, but I really want a 650. I'm not going anywhere. :)
 

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