Best way to remove beringer front lower caliper mount ?

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Whats the easiest way to remove the beringer front brake mount on a 07'650 to transfer to a 08' 550 tube w/brembo mount ?
Are the tubes the same ? (I hope !)

Think I might just buy the forks, tripple tree & rear shock off this other bike. Dunno if same or not...

Thanks in advance---Proflow
 
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I assume you are referring to the axle clamp, to separate it from the chrome stanchion?

If I had to guess, I would say that they will be compatible since they are both WP. You want to take the Brembo(offroad) caliper mount off and fit the Beringer(SM) onto it?

To separate them, I clamp the axle clamp in the vise with some soft jaws, and use a heatgun to heat the aluminium part, you can usually see some oil bubbling out where the chrome and Alu come together when its nice and hot. Use a screwdriver or something similar that fits snugly through the holes at the very top of the chrome, where the top most sliding bush sits, and it should turn loose.
 
Is the beringer caliper not a good choice for off road ?
This bike will see both.

Thanks in advance---Proflow
 
The Beringer radial caliper is positioned to accept the 310/320 rotor on a supermoto wheel only. They would be overwhelmingly strong off road and the large rotor is not convenient in those conditions. The Brembo brakes with a caliper adapter do work ok for supermoto other than in race conditions and still allows you to swap back to dirt wheels.

pollo
 
I see,
I was hoping to upgrade my Brembo to the Beringer 4 piston & 320 disc onto my stock wheels.
I was thinking it was going to be a great set up.
This bike will be both on & off road.

Will the disc bolt up to the stock wheels ?
Maybe I could fab a disc guard for off road protection if so.

I actually decided to buy the front forks,tripple trees, & rear shock off that 07'650 yesturday.
I was hoping the front fork tubes might be larger in diameter than my 08 550.
Same with the rear shock, maybe set up for a lil heavier bike ? Dunno


Thanks---Proflow
 
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The Brembo are great brakes on the stock enduro wheels. And are an upgrade themselves compared to other brake brands.
 
The Brembo are great brakes on the stock enduro wheels. And are an upgrade themselves compared to other brake brands.

OK, but if you had everything to change it over to beringer on your FE550 , would you ?
 
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OK, but if you had everything to change it over to beringer on your FE550 , would you ?

No I wouldn't. I already have an 06 FE650 fully converted to FS that will not be converted back. And Im very happy with the way the 07 550 partial conversion works as a supermoto. Its minus the Beringer brakes, but uses 17mm triple clamps and the shortened 06 enduro suspension with clickers on the stiff side.Going back to dirt wheels is an option with FE triple clamps, wheels and the FE suspension on the shelf.
 
Having both the 08' FE550 front and rear suspension , the 07' FS650 complete suspension.
Im wondering which is the superior of the two for both on & off road. The 07 FS has the Beringer brake on front.
Just trying to decide which set up to use is all.
I dont have the FS650 stuff in hand till next week so dont know if the front tubes/tripple clamps are larger or not etc...
 
The FS. suspension and triples are same fittment to the FE. In my opinion the better choice to do both is the enduro setup. The FS suspension is shorter and very stiff. You probably will not be able soften it up enough to prevent from getting beat up. At that it will. That and a 320 rotor scraping over the rocks is not ideal. Besides, the Beringer with rotor will not fit to and enduro wheel. Spoke offset is a problem.
On the other hand the enduro suspension work great as it should off road and gives you the option of running an adapter for supermoto wheels.
It works good enough to have fun that way unless you want to race it.
If you ever get serious about keeping it supermoto for a while then all the FS stuff is definitely the way to go
 
As you bought the complete set the easiest way to swap between sm and enduro is to slide out the forks with brake and wheel as one unit. Quikest change, best setup.
 
Pollo,
Thank you, thats the exact info I was looking for.
Although I was looking forward to using the Beringer brake, I understand.

Thanks again---Proflow
 
Q? for you Pollo,

So how much is a complete set of WB front forks w/tripples , & a 4 puk berringer brake set up w/disc & hardware all the way to the lever on the bars worth ? Also the rear shock off the 07' FS650 ?

Looks like im in the market to sell if this isnt going to be my path.

Thanks---Proflow
 
Q? for you Pollo,

So how much is a complete set of WB front forks w/tripples , & a 4 puk berringer brake set up w/disc & hardware all the way to the lever on the bars worth ? Also the rear shock off the 07' FS650 ?

Looks like im in the market to sell if this isnt going to be my path.

Thanks---Proflow

I usually gage some of that stuff on how much they are going for on ebay.
I would say between $400-$600 for the FS forks. There are a set of 08 KTM WP forks going for $600 right now.
Triple clamps if they are 17mm $200 - $250. They are rare. And that's half price of new.
I bought the FTE radial supermoto complete brakes for $450 on ebay.
Shock $150-$200
Hope that helps.
 
For what its worth, the 4pot and the older 6pot calipers don't really work with off road wheels anyway, the angle of the spokes is such that the spokes rub against the caliper, so you have to use a grinder or file or some such to grind part of the caliper off to get the spokes to clear.

I have an FS650 '08 which had been running with offroad wheels from time to time and the caliper was butchered in this way when I bought the bike. I got the offroad wheels as spare with the FS. I dont think you will ever find yourself in a situation where you would *need* a 310mm disc on a 127kg bike in dual sport trim.

I think even for general road use on a SM, the 310mm with 4 or 6 pot caliper is waay overkill, and only really necessary for track use, where you are constantly braking at the limit in almost every corner. Even in Motocross where there there is constant hard braking, the 270mm disc with 2 pot is more than sufficient.

I have ridden my FE501 with SM wheels on many ocasions, and just used the standard 270mm and 2pot combo, and never had any issues regarding stopping power.

Obviously, having the 310mm on your Dual sport will have more stopping power, so it is the superior setup, but is it necessary? Maybe if you plan to load the bike with luggage or a pillion, then I would say it would be worth it.

But, there is still no reason not to do it anyway...

As for FS shock and forks for dual sport, I wouldn't. Like Pollo said, they are very stiff, and very uncomfortable when riding offroad. Also, the less travel in the suspension makes the rake angle steeper and the steering is very twitchy for offroad, especially at higher speeds on dirt roads.
 
if you want to go back and forth with off road and supermoto set-up you better get the axial mounted Beringer brake and swap the caliper for the stock one when you're putting your off road wheels back on. It's easy and bolt-on. The off road suspension set-up is a bit plush for road duty but it does work ok.

I use my bike only as supermoto so i've set-up the suspension accordingly, but front cliper is still axial mounted. works great.

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wont go in detail
Caliper adaptor fited 310-320 disc cheap option braking just as good better than standard
 

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