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The '01s were made of alloy, and if made in aluminium it’s trash... Replace with the hard steel. '02's were fitted with either steel or aluminium, '03+ = steel. If changing to steel shorten the bolts or they go through the thinner camwheel and impact the head (44104)
Ned
Is this what U mean? I can fit it but must shorten the bolts. :cheers:
The '01s were made of alloy, and if made in aluminium it’s trash... Replace with the hard steel. '02's were fitted with either steel or aluminium, '03+ = steel. If changing to steel shorten the bolts or they go through the thinner camwheel and impact the head (44104)
Ned
Is this what U mean? I can fit it but must shorten the bolts. :cheers:
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I thought there was something about needing to upgrade to the 04+ auto decomp sledge too....i dont remember, thought it was on taffmeisters.co.uk somewhere buti just did a quick search and couldnt find it, i was going to do the same mod but was confusedby what else was needed then low and behold my new cam came witha new alum sprocket so i decided to run it another round as my budget was getting way outta hand anyway.........maybe you could look more at taffmeisters site and find it, like i said i just did a really quick look as i gotta run, good luck!!! maybe it was just the bolt thing like ned said..........i cannt remember fully and havnt done it personally
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sorry, thot we covered that in the doc.
here's a thread with a bit more info: viewtopic.php?f=5&t=11401]
iirc, you need to machine about .060" from the cam shoulder (difference in the thickness of the cam wheels)
here's a thread with a bit more info: viewtopic.php?f=5&t=11401]
iirc, you need to machine about .060" from the cam shoulder (difference in the thickness of the cam wheels)
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aaaah yes, right on ned!! the machining part.......I remember now thats why i didnt do it!! :bounce3:
I wonder, 0.060 or whatever is a pretty small amount, it would probably be easier and cheaper to machine that off the sprocket itself instead of the cam shoulder, although neither should be to expensive or time consuming for a good machinist, probably would be between $30-50$ tops to machine the cam, probably would be like 15$ to take it off the sprocket.........although i havnt done it to do the lining up so maybe it has to be taken off the cam......
I wonder, 0.060 or whatever is a pretty small amount, it would probably be easier and cheaper to machine that off the sprocket itself instead of the cam shoulder, although neither should be to expensive or time consuming for a good machinist, probably would be between $30-50$ tops to machine the cam, probably would be like 15$ to take it off the sprocket.........although i havnt done it to do the lining up so maybe it has to be taken off the cam......
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Use the steel
Just compare the thikness of both sprockes
Check if the chain is aligned
Check if the ADC works and if it's in the right position, you could upgrade the ADC and the spring.
Nothing on the BERGS is complicated :mrgreen:
:cheers:
ZAGA
Just compare the thikness of both sprockes
Check if the chain is aligned
Check if the ADC works and if it's in the right position, you could upgrade the ADC and the spring.
Nothing on the BERGS is complicated :mrgreen:
:cheers:
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I would assume that either could be machined, the steel sprocket muust be wider than the other, so basically measure the steel ones thickness, then measure the alum ones thicknesss, figure out the difference between the two then machine it off of whereever possible, the steel one must be wider so that the chainwears funny or something do to it being misaligned from the width change....just checkt o make sure your decomp works right too before you drop it in for the last time
Thanks again, will have a look at it + get my file out :mrgreen:
Ok, the aluminum sprocket is 5mm thick + the steel 3mm. If I am thinking correctly I would need to add a 2mm shim/washer between the sprocket and cam.
There must be someone that has done this before :bounce3:
Having looked at it again Im sure that it will fit straight on but will require the screws to be shortened. :cheers:
Please confirm if you can.
Cheers.
Ok, the aluminum sprocket is 5mm thick + the steel 3mm. If I am thinking correctly I would need to add a 2mm shim/washer between the sprocket and cam.
There must be someone that has done this before :bounce3:
Having looked at it again Im sure that it will fit straight on but will require the screws to be shortened. :cheers:
Please confirm if you can.
Cheers.
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Hi
I'm not shore but don,t think that the steel one is thinner on the center hole.
Put the ADC in place with the cam and check if it goes all the way in, in to it's hole and if it stays loose
Then put it in the engine and check if you can align the chain with the lower sprocket.
If its all good it's good to go
:cheers:
ZAGA
I'm not shore but don,t think that the steel one is thinner on the center hole.
Put the ADC in place with the cam and check if it goes all the way in, in to it's hole and if it stays loose
Then put it in the engine and check if you can align the chain with the lower sprocket.
If its all good it's good to go
:cheers:
ZAGA
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this thread is going sideways.
a couple of problems exist when changing the cam wheel. most people when changing it opt to put in the 04-up decomp which is shorter than the earlier one because they were all fitted to the narrower steel sprocket and cam with a thinner machined end for the center of the sprocket. most decide to do it because the earlier one self destructs at the lift end and needs changed anyway. changing it for a new replacement old style doesn't last long (ask me how i know).
so with the old, you have thicker aluminum sprocket, thicker cam machined end, longer bolts, and longer decomp.
if you reassembled it using the steel sprocket and the old decomp, the decomp will stick out .060 from the wheel on the bearing side which probably wouldn't hurt it unless it binds because it hits the cam on the inside. maybe you'd have to shim it .060 on the wheel side to keep it from shifting? shorter or spaced bolts and yer set, but that doesn't address the old decomp (can you still even get them?)
my rec is to do it right with a new decomp, spring and machined cam.
a couple of problems exist when changing the cam wheel. most people when changing it opt to put in the 04-up decomp which is shorter than the earlier one because they were all fitted to the narrower steel sprocket and cam with a thinner machined end for the center of the sprocket. most decide to do it because the earlier one self destructs at the lift end and needs changed anyway. changing it for a new replacement old style doesn't last long (ask me how i know).
so with the old, you have thicker aluminum sprocket, thicker cam machined end, longer bolts, and longer decomp.
if you reassembled it using the steel sprocket and the old decomp, the decomp will stick out .060 from the wheel on the bearing side which probably wouldn't hurt it unless it binds because it hits the cam on the inside. maybe you'd have to shim it .060 on the wheel side to keep it from shifting? shorter or spaced bolts and yer set, but that doesn't address the old decomp (can you still even get them?)
my rec is to do it right with a new decomp, spring and machined cam.
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Hi Ned
I don't remember that well but I have here some pict and I can't see much of a difference, it's a 98 and a 04 ADC
[attachment=2:1vv74344]ADC_comp.jpg[/attachment:1vv74344]
[attachment=1:1vv74344]ADC_new_3.jpg[/attachment:1vv74344]
[attachment=0:1vv74344]ADC_old_3.jpg[/attachment:1vv74344]
:cheers:
ZAGA
I don't remember that well but I have here some pict and I can't see much of a difference, it's a 98 and a 04 ADC
[attachment=2:1vv74344]ADC_comp.jpg[/attachment:1vv74344]
[attachment=1:1vv74344]ADC_new_3.jpg[/attachment:1vv74344]
[attachment=0:1vv74344]ADC_old_3.jpg[/attachment:1vv74344]
:cheers:
ZAGA
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husaberg does not formally recognize most of these upgrades. but anybody who deals in repair/ rebuilding them knows about them. especially with the troublesome 01-02 models.
zaga, your 98 indeed does look the same, but look at a pic of a later dutch clog type in place on an 02 with the alum sprocket.[attachment=1:1fgi5hdw]berg650 new autodecomp (1).JPG[/attachment:1fgi5hdw]
then look at it with the thinner steel.
zaga, your 98 indeed does look the same, but look at a pic of a later dutch clog type in place on an 02 with the alum sprocket.[attachment=1:1fgi5hdw]berg650 new autodecomp (1).JPG[/attachment:1fgi5hdw]
then look at it with the thinner steel.
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