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February 15th, 2011, 07:16 PM   #1
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Chain Guides and Slides

Does it make sense to spend any of my hard earned cash on aftermarket chain guides and slides (like TM Designworks)? Or does it make more sense to purchase something like a swingarm guard (like the bulletproof guard on 70 Degree Racing's website)? Or neither, the stock set-up is just fine? Your help is very much appreciated.
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February 16th, 2011, 12:10 PM   #2
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Re: Chain Guides and Slides

The advantage of a guide like TMD or BRP is that they flex when hit, then spring back. The stock ones wrapped in aluminum move if hit hard enough, and then stay moved.

Not much in it though. Probably depends on the rocks you ride.

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February 16th, 2011, 01:00 PM   #3
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Re: Chain Guides and Slides

Originally Posted by Hildy
Does it make sense to spend any of my hard earned cash on aftermarket chain guides and slides (like TM Designworks)? Or does it make more sense to purchase something like a swingarm guard (like the bulletproof guard on 70 Degree Racing's website)? Or neither, the stock set-up is just fine? Your help is very much appreciated.
I've got both on my 2010 Husaberg FE 390. I like the Bulletproof Chain Guide Guard because we ride in some nasty, rocky areas ... and I hate walking out. <grin> I'm running the TM Designworks chain guide and buffers because they hold up so much better than the stock units ... and do much less wear and tear on your chain. (The stock chain guide material wears and grooves out fast ... and starts rubbing on the side plates and master links.)

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February 16th, 2011, 01:09 PM   #4
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Re: Chain Guides and Slides

If you stick with the stock chain guide consider bracing the mounts together.
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February 16th, 2011, 04:49 PM   #5
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Re: Chain Guides and Slides

I had a full TM setup on my WR450 and to be honest wasn't very impressed with longevity. I don't know if its just because that paticular bike is hard on the guides or not. My FE has 50hrs on it and the bottom guide is in ok shape, theres some wear on the master link clip but not enough to replace everything yet.
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Re: Chain Guides and Slides

I purchased the T.M. Designworks 09-10 Husaberg Slide-N-Guide kit KTM-215-BU. With the Factory Edition rear 2 rear Chain guide.

Are you ment to leave the Black Husaberg 78004060000 Chain Gaurd off when using the T.M. Designwroks Chain Guides?

There was no hole in the Front TM Slider to mount the Chain Guard screw towards the front.
The rear of the Chain Guard does not fit in the Rear TM Chain Guide to attached the nut to hold it.

Chain Gaurd:


Front TM Designworks Chain Slider missing hole for screw:


Rear of Chain Gaurd does not fit TM Rear Chain Slider:
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Re: Chain Guides and Slides

Originally Posted by Davo
I purchased the T.M. Designworks 09-10 Husaberg Slide-N-Guide kit KTM-215-BU. With the Factory Edition rear 2 rear Chain guide.

Are you ment to leave the Black Husaberg 78004060000 Chain Gaurd off when using the T.M. Designwroks Chain Guides?

[ET: Yes, I believe so.]

There was no hole in the Front TM Slider to mount the Chain Guard screw towards the front.
The rear of the Chain Guard does not fit in the Rear TM Chain Guide to attached the nut to hold it.

[ET: I've got exactly the same setup and had the exact issue.]


Front TM Designworks Chain Slider missing hole for screw:


[ET: I even drilled a hole here in the TM Designs slider for the chain guard mounting screw.]

Rear of Chain Gaurd does not fit TM Rear Chain Slider:
[ET: But I got real frustrated at this point trying to mount the front/bottom of the stock chain splash guard.
I was on the verge of trying to drill a new hole and tap it for a new, longer bolt. Then I got fed up, said "ah screw it" and left the stock chain splash guard off. Which has worked fine.

You might get it work there - but it will take you a *lot* of work. Ultimately it's up to you as to how bad you want it mounted. Best of luck, eh. (g) E-Ticket]
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Re: Chain Guides and Slides

Originally Posted by E-Ticket
I was on the verge of trying to drill a new hole and tap it for a new, longer bolt. Then I got fed up, said "ah screw it" and left the stock chain splash guard off. Which has worked fine.

You might get it work there - but it will take you a *lot* of work. Ultimately it's up to you as to how bad you want it mounted. Best of luck, eh.
Thanks so much E-Ticket, if it works without the Chain Guard for you that is good enough for me to leave it off. You're a champion
Have fun at the Force ride too.

I am impressed with the T.M. Designworks guides so far. They just look stronger than the stock guides.
I also carefully measured and drilled the hole for the front Chain Guard screw in the TM Front Guide, then got to the back and thought WTF that don't fit either

I also had trouble mounting the front TM Chain Guide, then read the instructions again and it said to leave it in the oven if it is cold. I tried that with oven on 100C and after a few minutes it was warm and bolted straight up. The picture below shows how far it missed by when it was cold:
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Re: Chain Guides and Slides

Originally Posted by Davo
Originally Posted by E-Ticket
I was on the verge of trying to drill a new hole and tap it for a new, longer bolt. Then I got fed up, said "ah screw it" and left the stock chain splash guard off. Which has worked fine.

You might get it work there - but it will take you a *lot* of work. Ultimately it's up to you as to how bad you want it mounted. Best of luck, eh.
Thanks so much E-Ticket, if it works without the Chain Guard for you that is good enough for me to leave it off. Your a champion
Have fun at the Force ride too.

I am impressed with the T.M. Designworks guides so far. They just look stronger than the stock guides.
I also carefully measured and drilled the hole for the front Chain Guard screw in the TM Front Guide, then got to the back and thought WTF that don't fit either

I also had trouble mounting the front TM Chain Guide, then read the instructions again and it said to leave it in the oven if it is cold. I tried that with oven on 100C and after a few minutes it was warm and bolted straight up. The picture below shows how far it missed by when it was cold: ............
You're welcome, mate!

And the TM Designs stuff is *very* strong... thank goodness. How do I know this? Well, the the "Flying Ant" is only 5'2" riding a lowered KTM 250 XCF-W ... and she ... ummm .... *hits* a lot of stuff. lol.

Really looking forward to the Force 4 event and riding in Colorado. It's been on "The List" for a long time! (g)

Cheers! E-Ticket
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Re: Chain Guides and Slides

Hi Guys,
T.M. Designworks support are very quick to respond via emails, so that is good news for anyone wanting to use their products. Here is their response to my question of why the Husaberg Chain Guard did not fit to the T.M. Designworks Chain Guides:

Originally Posted by TMD Sales
Subject: RE: Message from TM Designworks Online Store.
They are not designed to be installed with the( stock chain guard)
Thank you TMD Sales
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