Suspension Suspension and Handling Forum - bouncy bouncy! | 1Thanks
September 26th, 2019, 06:14 AM
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#1 | Senior Member
Joined: May 2005 From: Sacramento California Posts: 189 Thanks: 143 I Ride: "2000" FE600, 1994 FC660, 1994 FE501 (in pieces), 2001 FE 501 (in fewer pieces), 2002 FE 400 | '99 FS seat height/suspension travel
So, a friend recently brought home a very nice '99 FS600E. It's a fantastic bike but has a couple of problems.
First, my friend is 6'7" tall and the bike is too short for him. Looking at the bike, it appears that it may have had the suspension lowered. Is there any way to tell short of disassembling the forks/shock and inspecting for spacers?
Second, this bike has the Edelbrock carb. I seem to recall that this carb came as OEM on, at least the US, FS bikes. I had one of these carbs and installed it on both a Honda XR650R and a Husaberg FC600. I recall, in both cases, experiencing a float needle problem where the needle would get stuck in the seat and starve for fuel. My friend is having this problem and it is extremely frustrating. I have researched it and found that it was a common problem with these carbs. Can anyone tell me if there is a fix (short of swapping to an FCR)?
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September 26th, 2019, 06:39 AM
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#2 | Senior Member
Joined: Jun 2019 From: Alameda, CA Posts: 105 Thanks: 14 I Ride: FE570,FS570,450/520XCF SM, SV1000, NC700 |
I'm seeing pictures showing both conventional and USD forks, and won't claim to know the right number, but how much fork tube is exposed?
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September 26th, 2019, 07:01 AM
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#3 | Senior Member
Joined: May 2005 From: Sacramento California Posts: 189 Thanks: 143 I Ride: "2000" FE600, 1994 FC660, 1994 FE501 (in pieces), 2001 FE 501 (in fewer pieces), 2002 FE 400 |
This one has the conventionals and the exposed tube length for a factory stock FS (or, for that matter, FX, FE, or FC) is what I'm hoping to find out.
I'll ask him to check. Hopefully it's just a matter of removing some spacers and having the seat built up in order to get it to a comfortable height for him.
I did some google searching and it appears that the carb is a lost cause.
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September 26th, 2019, 07:25 AM
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#4 | Senior Member
Joined: Jun 2019 From: Alameda, CA Posts: 105 Thanks: 14 I Ride: FE570,FS570,450/520XCF SM, SV1000, NC700 |
it wouldn't surprise me if that era FS was lowered somewhat from the factory - my FS570 appears to have less travel than my FE570 and they're the same year.
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September 26th, 2019, 09:57 AM
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#5 | Senior Member
Joined: Nov 2001 From: Ely, England Posts: 16,419 Thanks: 582 I Ride: Husaberg FE501e 2003 |
thorgan
just look at any old photo of one without the rider on it and look at the angle of the swingarm. that is all you need to do for the rear.
The FE is a very tall bike.
I have original '99 seats and sidepanels. rad shrouds. orignal '99 decal sets.
cheers
Taffy
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September 26th, 2019, 10:16 AM
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#6 | Senior Member
Joined: May 2005 From: Sacramento California Posts: 189 Thanks: 143 I Ride: "2000" FE600, 1994 FC660, 1994 FE501 (in pieces), 2001 FE 501 (in fewer pieces), 2002 FE 400 |
Hmm...looking at the '99 owners' manual indicates that they had the same suspension travel and seat height across all models. Plus, I don't see any mention of the Edelbrock carb so that may be aftermarket.
Taffy, would you have a seat cover to fit this bike that might have enough fabric to adequately cover a seat that has been built up a few inches...say, maybe 2 inches or so?
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September 26th, 2019, 10:23 AM
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#7 | Senior Member
Joined: Jun 2019 From: Alameda, CA Posts: 105 Thanks: 14 I Ride: FE570,FS570,450/520XCF SM, SV1000, NC700 |
if the manual indicates the same suspension travel and the same seat height across enduro vs supermoto, I bet the manual is wrong: a supermoto with the same suspension travel will have a lower seat height than the enduro.
maybe I'm missing something though
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September 26th, 2019, 10:33 AM
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#8 | Senior Member
Joined: May 2005 From: Sacramento California Posts: 189 Thanks: 143 I Ride: "2000" FE600, 1994 FC660, 1994 FE501 (in pieces), 2001 FE 501 (in fewer pieces), 2002 FE 400 |
Junkie,
I think that Husaberg made both an FS and a Supermoto in '99. The one my friend has is equipped with all of the enduro parts (21"/18" wheels, longer kick stand, etc). In the manuals, Husaberg refers to this bike as the "Elduro" which was a street legal enduro bike.
However, being as tall as they were, I wouldn't be surprised if a previous owner had it lowered. Just trying to find out for sure.
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September 26th, 2019, 11:25 AM
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#9 | Senior Member
Joined: Jun 2019 From: Alameda, CA Posts: 105 Thanks: 14 I Ride: FE570,FS570,450/520XCF SM, SV1000, NC700 |
you said FS600E, I thought FS = supermoto.
wouldn't that be an FE600S? or maybe I'm just confused.
F = four stroke
E = enduro (other options are C = competition/MX, S = supermoto)
600 displacement
E = electric start
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September 26th, 2019, 12:59 PM
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#10 | Senior Member
Joined: May 2005 From: Sacramento California Posts: 189 Thanks: 143 I Ride: "2000" FE600, 1994 FC660, 1994 FE501 (in pieces), 2001 FE 501 (in fewer pieces), 2002 FE 400 |
Ok, I knew that I had read this somewhere. I have a copy of a "Husaberg 1999 SM" document that states "Dual Sport USA - FS 600: Edelbrock Qwiksilver 38" as the carb! So, it appears that the Qwiksilver WAS the standard carb on this bike!
It appears to be a service manual...huh!...that would explain the "SM" in the file name. So, I'm mistaken in that there was no supermoto in 1999. Therefore, the "FS" has to mean that it's a "street" model.
I understand that, in later years, the "FS" designation referred to a supermoto and that a FE570S would have been the dual sport. However, I think that this bike pre-dates Husaberg's adoption of that terminology.
Apparently there were FR (Rally) and "FM" (?) models as well (in addition to FE, FS, FC, and FX). Maybe the "FM" was a supermoto somehow? I've only seen reference to it on this site and in no documents anywhere.
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