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May 24th, 2005, 01:03 PM
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#1 | Senior Member
Joined: Nov 2001 From: Ely, England Posts: 15,486 Thanks: 412 I Ride: Husaberg FE501e 2003 | KTM yokes-fitment
just to say that i've gone to fit some KTM triple clamps tonight and the bottom bearing that came (free) with the yokes fits up in to the frame nicely. however the top bearing is way different to the husey bearing from my '02 machine.
mine is a 25.5mm on a a steel post and what i need is a 29mm i.d. bearing that obviously suits the original outer cup.
for the record the bottom of the post has a 29mm o/d and the top a 29mm o/d also.
CAN I JUST SAY HOW PISSED I AM AT THE LACK OF HELP HERE? people get plenty of help from the site and i can say i gladly give it and give more than my share. but i know that there are about 3 sets of KTM clamps fitted around UHE and my obvious problem could have been avoided if JUST ONE PERSON had put up a thread saying what is involved in doing this mod/change.
i call that pathetic!  to you i say phuq ya! whoever you are and several :P :P :P
i take my racing seriously and the lack of support is palpable and the input from some is derisory.
while i'm here i'll also say that the support given directly in building the 'owners doc' up is next to zero.
i think am at the beginning of the end with UHE if this is your best shot.
Taffy
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May 24th, 2005, 02:13 PM
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#2 | Senior Member
Joined: Mar 2004 From: USA Posts: 363 Thanks: 1 I Ride: |
I'm sorry that I can not help on the clamp fitment. I have asked about them in the past, but never ventured into actual fitment.
I hate to refer you off site, but I have found that KTMTalk.com has a very good support group with some top name tuners in their Suspension section of their board. They have also recently added a Husaberg forum, so the Husaberg specific traffic may pick up.
The good thing about this board is that it is Husaberg specific, and the bad thing about this board is that it is Husaberg specific. ...A lot of the knowledge can be lost due to people moving from brand to brand, and thus not visiting the board anymore.
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May 24th, 2005, 03:08 PM
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#3 | Senior Member
Joined: Jun 2001 From: Pasadena Ca. Posts: 1,355 Thanks: 0 I Ride: |
Hi taffy,
Don't give up yet!
Try this web site, for tapered roller bearings. Check your bearing measurements again though before you go there, maybe you can get a fitup!
You need to check the frame ID where the replacement bearing will fit. http://www.skf.com/portal/skf/home/prod ... ink=1_14_0
cheers,
Joe
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May 24th, 2005, 07:29 PM
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#4 | Senior Member
Joined: Jul 2003 From: Atwater, CA Posts: 347 Thanks: 0 I Ride: |
Hey Taffy!
Wow, you sound kind of angry. Too bad you could not go on Bobzilla's ride to relax. I have KTM clamps fitted on my Berg. What I have found to be the best way is to have a new stem machined with the KTM dimensions on the bottom (the press fit area only), and of course the Husaberg dimensions on the top. The second best way is to have a press fit sleeve machined to adapt the Husaberg stem to the KTM clamp, and also one (slotted) for the KTM clamp up top. I went to a bearing house, and the ktm and Husaberg races are not the same. They are close. Probably close enough for government work, but I am confident you will not find the right bearing with seals. That is why I had to stick with the Husaberg spec bearings, if I wanted that assembly sealed. I wasted
a lot of time and money, coming to this conclusion. My pain, your gain.
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May 24th, 2005, 11:47 PM
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#5 | Senior Member
Joined: Nov 2001 From: Ely, England Posts: 15,486 Thanks: 412 I Ride: Husaberg FE501e 2003 |
brendan
you're obviously an intelligent fella but i have to ask how did you get your head trapped up there? (bob stop laughing-i'm being serious here!-i honest)
it's not enough that you're a student and people go out of their way to help you but you also conspire to offer advice AFTER i've done the work? what the hell use is that? shouldn't you be helping fellow bergers with the info when it's fresh in your mind and trying to save them some of the pitfalls and hassles?
i wouldn't want to be your mum. do you ever pick anything up?
so i'd better go check what i can do with this little lot then.
PS brendan-your last joke wasn't so don't try the avator one again.
PPS if i could i'd have your babies
regards
Taffy
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May 25th, 2005, 03:01 AM
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#6 | Senior Member
Joined: Nov 2001 From: Ely, England Posts: 15,486 Thanks: 412 I Ride: Husaberg FE501e 2003 |
ok these are the bearings
husey
post = 25.5mm
inner race = L44643R
Seal =L44600RRS-1
outer cup = L44610
KTM
post = 29mm
inner race = L45449
seal bottom is a KTM part
seal top is on it's way to me
outer cup = L45410
the OD on the KTM outer cup is the same as the huseys
although the numbers are different at L44610 and L45410, closer inspection shows there to absolutely no difference in them so it's OK to use the husey outer cup with the KTM inner race.
i'll keep you all informed as it all goes together. the previous owner is sending the bearing saving me £20.
regards
Taffy
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May 26th, 2005, 10:23 PM
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#7 | Senior Member
Joined: Mar 2005 From: Mesa, AZ Posts: 2,713 Thanks: 3 I Ride: |
I finally reckoned that you were talking about the triple clamps.
What you're saying is that a KTM yoke/triple clamps do(es) not fit a Husaberg?
Or that it can be done with some work?
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May 26th, 2005, 10:33 PM
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#8 | Senior Member
Joined: Nov 2001 From: Ely, England Posts: 15,486 Thanks: 412 I Ride: Husaberg FE501e 2003 | Re: KTM yokes-fitment
quote from the very first line of the opening post by Taffy; just to say that i've gone to fit some KTM triple clamps tonight
you didn't spot the opening line nick.
Originally Posted by Taffy but i know that there are about 3 sets of KTM clamps fitted around UHE and my obvious problem could have been avoided if JUST ONE PERSON had put up a thread saying what is involved in doing this mod/change |
i'm saying they do fit nick!
regards
Taffy
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May 26th, 2005, 10:39 PM
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#9 | Senior Member
Joined: Mar 2005 From: Sunset desert/ Murray River. S.A/Victoria Australia Posts: 514 Thanks: 3 I Ride: |
Hi Taffy.
Check your PMs please.
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May 27th, 2005, 02:06 PM
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#10 | Senior Member
Joined: Nov 2001 From: Ely, England Posts: 15,486 Thanks: 412 I Ride: Husaberg FE501e 2003 |
ok this one is for the lads that have a katoom.
i have fitted the yokes (yes, i mean yokes, why to an englishman would i say anything else?) and i hate the fit.
it's very tight. unlike every other bike i've oned in nearly 30 years there appears to be no castle nut that simply tightens the taper rollers and bottom yoke alone. no! i have to clamp the whole lot up!!
anyway i did 15lbs and it fills stiff and shitty.
anyone got any comments on this?
i'll check them out in the morning as i want to ride 'on the morrow'.
regards
Taffy
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