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March 21st, 2007, 09:43 PM   #21
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Hey Steve,

you've got me sold on the Delo400. I've been using the motorex since I got my bike & at $75 for 4 litres it gets rather expensive to change oils frequently. I like to change my oil as soon as I cant see the plate at the back of the window, about 8 hrs if you're not following someone all day. I can keep the oil after I have used it in the bike & "recycle" it into the ole Landcruiser. Gotta be happy with that.

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March 22nd, 2007, 03:38 PM   #22
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The Good Oil

Good thinking Wal, the old Landcruiser will still think it's getting a good thing!!! We are paying $90 something for 4 litres of Motorex down here ??? I think it's going to be Delo400 for my Fe650 when I have run it it. Spoke to Dale Lineaweaver and read his posts on the old Delo400 and it exceeds all requirements. When you put it in perspective, it has to be good to put up with the temperatures and demands of running a turbo charged diesel truck engine. I suspect if changed regularly it will greatly exceed the requirements of a Husaberg or any similar engine.

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March 22nd, 2007, 05:27 PM   #23
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An interesting linke here on oils with this conclusion:

Despite more than six months of research, reading all the claims and counter-claims printed by dozens of industry experts and lubrication experts, MCN cannot and does not purport to know all there is to know about the differences between automotive and motorcycle oils. However, what we do know is that we can find no substantive evidence that using a high-quality, name-brand automotive oil in an average street motorcycle is in any way harmful or less effective in providing proper lubrication and protection than using the more expensive, motorcycle-specific oils.

http://www.nightrider.com/biketech/oiltest1.htm

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March 23rd, 2007, 12:37 AM   #24
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Hi guys, brand new here and also brand new to the dirt biking world. Being a committed GSXR(1000 now) fan since 1990 (riding from 1976) I'm a total stranger to the off road game. But all of my friends switched to off road lately and I'm thinking to do the same 'cause the law is getting more and more tight around here and the idiots have closed down every race track but one (QR)which is so boring and I have enough of it all.

Anyways, I'm a serious researcher before buying anything, so I do the same with this one.
I decided to get a 525 EXC, but then I came across a few tests and read some forum talks on the Bergs. Something happened in the inside of me(LOL).
Especially the FE 650 is the one (being a power freak) not just because the power, but it's so light on paper and as I hear, It IS easy to ride.

I've learned that the reliability issues have been solved, so now I have only one concern left:
- How is the availability of parts and services here in Aus.? Particularly in Brisbane? If this is ok, then the case is closed, I'll get one.

Thanks for your help.
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March 23rd, 2007, 02:03 PM   #25
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Welcome Gforce. I'm a newy as well here, but not quite as new as yourself. You have found the site to get all your questions answered on all sorts of stuff (maybe leave out the marital questions though) !!!!! Then again if you come down to Louee we might be able to solve some of those over a beer as well ha ha !!!!
Husaberg should be paying some of the guys on here for service to the brand, very knowledgable and friendly. Like you, I to came from the Orange side and from the Blue side before that. And now having had a decent ride on my Berg I can confirm what you have read about the Fe650 is all true. My first impression was "faaaaaaaark", how good is this thing. It took me about ten seconds to feel comfortable with it's handling and power. In all fairness the 525 is a great bike, but roost protection on the Berg is optional !!!!
I can't comment on the parts issue but no doubt someone from Brisbane will help you. I think you will find that due to KTM owning Husaberg that service and parts would not be a problem. Some of the long term Berg owners on here like Steve will be able to steer you right on that one.
Anyway go and trade up on a Berg if you haven't already done so, you wont regret it Gforce.
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March 25th, 2007, 01:34 PM   #26
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Hi gforce,

I do less and less road and more and more dirt as the years go on because of the fun factor. My bitumen of joice is Phillip Island, but I haven't been down for a few years, and it does spoil you for tar anywhere else. I reckon I've done about 25,000 km around there in the 90s before I got my first Berg.

The main thing with Bergs is chaning the oil all the time. I do the Delo 400 thing +/- 5 hours. Parts for my 501 are still not a problem. Most dealers are enthusiasts and the older Berg dealers around are keen to help. Dunno about Brisbane, but Suttos in Sydney are very helpfull and will mail stuff overnight. I live in the bush so often sourcing stuff in the US via internet and locally are not much different.

As an aside, if you are new to dirt bike riding, it maybe that a FE650 is a bit much. It is controllable, but it is the Gixxer 1000 of dirt bikes, it requires a controlled right wrist. It is totally controllable, but as a mate of mine who had a play on it yesterday said, 'Its great to know that you've got another 30hp available most of the time.The rest of the time its 40hp to go" The torque grunting of a gnarly hill with a little clutch in third gear is a wonderful thing on a FE650.

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March 25th, 2007, 05:41 PM   #27
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Thanks for that cafey18 and Steve.
What do you think about the current issue of the Australasian DB mag? They compared the 500+ enduros.(not the FE650).

Well, having a loooooong experience on the bitumen basher world, I've learned the art to read between the lines and filter the crap from the truth.
I wonder if this would be the case with the dirt bike mags to?
I'm doing my research on dirt stuff only for a few months, but already have read a few contradictions. I guess, different testers, different tastes.

Also I have a few friends in Europe and they complain a lot about overheating of their Bergs(they call them teapots, for their amazing ability of boiling the water . But I hearing this about other brands too.
How do we deal with this issue here in oz where the heat can be more severe?
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March 25th, 2007, 06:10 PM   #28
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G'day Gforce,

welcome to the site. I get ADB mag delivered & have read the comparison article you are talking about. What I find is that they favour the "gumby" bikes as they dont have any time to spend actually seeing what the bikes can do after some initial setting changes. The crap about being hard to start when hot got me ? I'm looking to install a fan on mine, not because it overheats but because I am doing alot of recon riding finding new tracks & dont always have air flowing through the bike. If you read the article carefully they state that if you spend the time getting used to the bike, it's great !

I honestly think that a 650 is too powerful for the trails, but thats my opinion. I have a hard enough time getting the rear wheel to hook up now without spinning on my 550

We are having a ride at Louee in May. Check the "Aussie version of Moab" topic for the details & let us know if you're interested. You could have a ride on a couple of different bikes to see for yourself.



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March 25th, 2007, 06:43 PM   #29
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Like most, I read mags for entertainment and information. I know from my road days that I can lap a circuit faster than many journos, I've been at press launches and ridden with a few. I then read their articles and find them largely meaninglesss as I know thay are parrotting stuff from others because the bike is so much better than they are, but they can still entertain me, so I still get the mags. ADB tests usually involve a some very good riders, but they rarely get to set up the bikes properly and largely test them as delivered. Press bikes must be setup properly before being delivered to journos. Old computer term applies, GIGO They have a deadline, and setup time intrudes on that.

Get info form mags, but don't decide until you ride them yourself, in similar terrain and conditions to what you normally ride.

With dirt bikes in particular, suspension and ergonmics are fully adjustable, so focus on mechanicals.

Two Wheels and Dirt Action have recently tested FE650s as well with positive reviews. My 501 is yet to overheat. My 650 has had a few hot days, but not much gully bashing yet. No overheating as yet. I have also fitted the fan, which does seem to run more than I'd expected. I identify overheating as coolant coming out of the overflow and into the bash plate.

Bergs are good thing, as reliable as the maintenance you put in. All dirt bikes require TLC, or being replaced every year or two.

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March 25th, 2007, 10:30 PM   #30
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Thanks for the info wildman!

Two Wheels ... yes that was the test that started all this Berg thing in me, when I was at Stradbroke Island last weekend with my colleagues and just salivated to see the trails and the beautiful beach thinking, oh what an awesome place for dirt bikes. But having non, I just picked up a few mags and then I read about the FE 650 while the rest was doing fishing. ...I'm getting in that stage where I can't think about anything else now...
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