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April 17th, 2006, 11:39 AM   #31
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Re: FE450e is NOT a Desert bike

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Originally Posted by LeFrog
Adding two teeth may be a good thing for you since you're a big guy and that you seem to be a single track rider, but it's not necessarily the best thing for the wide open stuff.

I am happy with 14 teeth (down from 15) on my 501, until I reach some faster section (not counting the fact that I did really badly the last time).

A higher final ratio helps for the tight stuff with a lot of hill climbs, but not for the wide open stuff.

I guess you had a 2nd gear that was too violent and a 3rd that was too mellow?
Nick, Now that you have had the bike for a while do me a favor and try the 15 again. I used the 14 for a while and then tried the 15. What I found was that first gear is usable with the 15 and for me it was not with the 14. You also have plenty of power to lug it and ride a gear higher. If you are doing anything but really tight AA enduro trails I think you will find the 15 is really good. I found it made 3 and 4 gear the MONEY gears . and the power band so long that you hardly needed anything else until you got to the wide open.

Each his own but you still got the sprocket so why not try it again?
Well, I am still recovering and won't ride for at least two more weeks (I'd like to hit the trails before it's 115F ... at 8am).

The 14 in the front helped me get used to the bike and become more confident, but coming back after a fracture will take a bit of getting used to.

It lugs when you rev it, it's not a DRZ. Even the DRZ 250 does better at low RPM than the Fe501 climbing a hill... as long as I have a bit of momentum that is.

With 14 teeth I like the fact that the power is more manageable in the tighter and slow stuff, but it becomes a pain when going at speed over 30mph in MX-like condition, then the 2nd has too big of a hit and the 3rd is too mellow.

As far as I am concerned if I needed to get a new bike it would certainly be a 450. I rode a DRZ 250 in the desert and to me a 450 has power a plenty compared to that pig.
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Re: FE450e is NOT a Desert bike

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How difficult would it be to bump the displacement up to 480-490cc's and then add a FCR41. Using Dales kit of course. We can call it the FX kit.
Hi Eric,
The engine is already grossly over-square. Stroking would be pricey.
Said bike hits in the middle and is week on either side of peak torque.

In my opinion a new camshaft and several hours of dynamometer time would be a worthy investment.

Tuning for top gear peak mph would also likely reduce the need for low gear / second gear spread.

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Re: FE450e is NOT a Desert bike

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For what it may be worth:
The power delivery is narrow and in the middle of the rev range.
The lower gear selections are a bit wide for the displacement.
yup that is what I observed, (in 2nd, thru 4th and 5th too as I remember) that is what I meant by finding that sweet spot middle zone for each gear. Even in the woods, where the shifting is more and I slow down again after just speeding up I find my self rolling the throttle more just after I shift which takes me past the lower revs and into that power pounch zone of the next gear, then the bike Zooms ahead.....faster then I kinda wanted...I always figured this was the result the factory engineers/bike designers wanted as its end result is I go FAST....I kind of figured the bike is a race enduro bike and racers go WFO even for short sections like enduros can have, so I figured they WANT me to open up that throttle each time I shift...zooming me forward. See I do respect the Husaberg as a race bike not a trail bike, so I have no complaints in the trails and woods and was ready to accept the Fe450e's ride in the desert as well, assuming I am a newbie, but what I found in the desrt is the narrow power zone and gearing is more obvious as you have long strecthes of acceleration. I have another bike for the desert.


back in the woods, the berg has so many other facets that attract me, that I don't view this narrow power zone as a deficit, its not as noticeable because your shifting so much and changing speeds, so that extra throttle twist I use to fill the gear makes me zoom and I like that.
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Re: FE450e is NOT a Desert bike

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yeah 6'5" and 255 out of the shower.....

ouch,
could have done without that 'lead-in' to a visual....
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Re: FE450e is NOT a Desert bike

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yeah 6'5" and 255 out of the shower.....

ouch,
could have done without that 'lead-in' to a visual....
yeah I didnt think of it That way, I was being so specific to the needs of the post wanted to be accurate
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Re: FE450e is NOT a Desert bike

Now with all the other 450 4 strokes having wide powerbands and long over-runs why would Husaberg build one with a 2 stroke style of powerband. Have yet to ride a new 450, but my old 400FC came to life in the midrange and would then rev to the moon. Believe my old 400 had the long duration C cam in it.
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Re: FE450e is NOT a Desert bike

i think the term 'desert riding' is too vague. here in las vegas we have some desert riding.
desert riding to me isnt zipping down some paveless road [fireroads] or dry lake bed at 6th gear max. put knobbies on a harley if thats what you are going to do.
running wide open thru the open desert is not a reality. it doesnt happen.
you can get up to some high speeds, as verified by a gps] but its not sustained. a bigger bike will definitely get you there quicker, and provide torque to help you get thru some nastyz. i think that one thing the bigger bikes do is 'flatten' out the terrain at speed. the power being sent to the rear seems to grip the earth, until you hit that rock or mound that sends you skyward. and when that happens you hope your return arch matches your bikes arch.
and a 250 2stroke in the desert? not here your sure.
so what is desert riding? its like a good date......different to everyone.
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Re: FE450e is NOT a Desert bike

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and a 250 2stroke in the desert? not here your sure.
what are you saying? have i been committing some kind of crime by riding my 250sx in the dezert near vegas? we don't have any enforcement up here in ely on that issue. 250 expert was the biggest of the expert classes by a healthy margin at the last mran race i went to in march.

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Re: FE450e is NOT a Desert bike

to be more specific regarding my weekend observations

1.) I do not like riding 80mph on a straight dirt road, that is not my "desert" experience, plus I get scared over 50 mph on a road and 35mph on any trails.

2.) my "desert" rides are play full rolling hills with open trails simliar to many open play areas and sand washes and some double wide track and some single track. Here are some photos of Moonrocks, NV where I rode Saturday

typical sand wash

snad wash again

typical trail

trail 2

husaberg 550e

me and my husky last week

If I could I would change the Title of this thread to read "My weekend on My Fe450e" and drop the desert reference. I also disagree with the 2 stroke powerband comment. The fe450e is linear and very electric no big hit in the middle, a nice bark (hit) down low out of 1st but that's all, what I'm experiencing is gapy ness in the tranny mainly and that translates into a narrow powerband as dale called it with wide tranny for the 450 displacement. The only thing that feels like a 2 stroke is because the bike is so light it feels like a 2 stroke in the big heavy E start 450 field.
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Re: FE450e is NOT a Desert bike

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yeah 6'5" and 255 out of the shower.....

ouch,
could have done without that 'lead-in' to a visual....
T M I
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