Possible new to me 08' FE450 owner - Page 4

proflow · February 9th, 2018, 11:32 PM

Any chance you might know of a good source for these parts @ a reasonable price ?
I certainly appreciate the advice

Taffy · February 9th, 2018, 11:39 PM

I don't think that the price of new cases is unreasonable. about $1,500 to you I guess. you get all new bearings for that money.

alas your journey isn't over....

I've seen shagged out 450 engines for $200 and everythin inside is usable. so look out for shagged 450 bottom end.

other than that you could be looking for some time!

Taffy

proflow · February 10th, 2018, 01:02 AM

Originally Posted by Taffy

I don't think that the price of new cases is unreasonable. about $1,500 to you I guess. you get all new bearings for that money.

alas your journey isn't over....

I've seen shagged out 450 engines for $200 and everythin inside is usable. so look out for shagged 450 bottom end.

other than that you could be looking for some time!

Taffy

Got ya, Im puting my feelers out there for the 650 parts needed. Too bad the cases I found are 01, price was right for sure !
Beings this bike is a fresh,strong runner, I have patience !
How much of a pain to use those cases anyway ? Ignition change and ?

Taffy · February 10th, 2018, 01:40 AM

someone has done it. there's a thread on the subject here.

the TPS would still work so i guess if you swopped and made ignitions work it is all dooable.

you're gradually getting drawn deeper and deeper intot he woods. this is more hanzel and gretl than hanzel and gretl!

Taffy

proflow · February 10th, 2018, 01:41 AM

So Taffy, can you please tell me any more downsides to the 01' 650 cases minus changing ignition ? Used ign rare or expensive ? I can sell mine right ?
Surely I could source out ignition if thats the big change right ?
I do however want to do this correctly, yet 1500 vs the price on the other cases is huge..
Just saying. That could purchase alot of other internals if you know what Im saying !

Taffy · February 10th, 2018, 02:03 AM

well one is hassle and the other is $1,500! I can't answer that. it is up to you.

just know that it is money v headache and hassle

taffy

proflow · February 10th, 2018, 02:11 AM

Originally Posted by Taffy

well one is hassle and the other is $1,500! I can't answer that. it is up to you.

just know that it is money v headache and hassle

taffy

Thanks again for the reply.
So the 01 cases would need complete ignition, ign cover, head pipe ?
Im sure Im missing things as still learning

Taffy · February 10th, 2018, 02:36 AM

the exhaust would fit iover and the carb can go over. there's only one real problem and that is the fact that they have two totally different ignition systems.

someone will put you onto the 'kokusan ignition on an old berg' thread. its long its out there and someone will drop you a link for it if you don't find it here first.

Taffy

proflow · February 10th, 2018, 03:02 AM

Thanks Taffy,
I actually just a min. ago pulled the trigger on those 01'cases.
Paid very lil money for them & if dont find newer I'll have something to work with.
At least its a start even if the hard way ! lol.
Worst case, sell them right ? Thats what I figure anyway.
Still on a parts hunt !

Thanks again for the help bud

Proflow

WArdogG · February 10th, 2018, 03:38 AM

SEM KOKUSAN Conversion

Hi there, have a look at this thread, it will give you an idea of what you are in for, regarding the igintion conversion for the 2001 to 2003 cases, to the later 04 to 08 kokusan ignition

The main things you will need for converting your 450 to 650 will be engine cases, crankshaft, conrod, piston and liner,timing chain, camshaft, exhaust header and cdi unit.

It may be cheaper to look around some more for a complete 650 engine, rather than scratching one together from spare parts? I suppose at the end of the day it will depend on whats available on ebay or similar sites, and what the price is.