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February 7th, 2016, 09:49 AM   #1
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comparison force vs 70 degree

I might be totally out of bounds, or maybe im just not like the rest of the world, who says the 09-12 husabergs turns and feels like a 250.
I had a 450 -08 before wich i felt like it was a 250. easy to ride, fast cornering.
Now i bought a 2011 and it feels heavier in trails. it wants to go straight forward in the bends. the 70 degree works alot better at the gravel roads for me.

from all ive read before it suppose to be the other way around.

I need your opinions on this. you, who have tried em all or just both.
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February 7th, 2016, 03:18 PM   #2
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70 deg carries it centre of gravity up high

Crank where it is in the 70 deg engine is good for some things and not for others


My 700 has it's cog 90 mm lower than the 08 chassis it started life in

Subjectivity of handling makes comparisons hard to evaluate but there is a good reason the 501 which replaced the 70 deg engines is such a nice well behaved mAchine
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February 7th, 2016, 04:26 PM   #3
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I ran a FE390 and loved it on more open terrain but that pig would wear your ass out in the woods. After all my mods that beast weighed in around 260-270.

That being said, it was one of the most planted bikes I have raced.
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February 7th, 2016, 09:59 PM   #4
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They are very sensitive about geometry and suspension. When I changed springs to suit my weight and clicked my suspension it transformed. When I have a nice pace it's nimble and nice but for sure in slower sections you can feel the weight. That high CG can't magically be engineered away with rotating masses. So I agree, the bike do feel heavy. Unless you pick up some more fluent pace and then it do feel light compared to other heavy bikes.

But in your case where your bike wants to go forward in bends, I think that might be down to geometry. What springs do you have, what is your weight and how high do you have your forks?
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February 8th, 2016, 12:40 AM   #5
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Well. I use it for roadbook competitions. In hobby. So there its perfect. Going fast on small gravel roads. But i was on a enduro track yesterday and i thought it would be easier then it was. My 08 was alot easier there. Think i might have to get m e a 350 for The enduro, so i can have the right setup for The condition.

But in this meaning i do feel a bit decieved from all ive heard about The 70 degrees 450 feeling like a 250. Ofc my setup must have some to do with it. Didnt think of that when i allmost died of The struggle.
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February 8th, 2016, 05:19 AM   #6
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But in this meaning i do feel a bit decieved from all ive heard about The 70 degrees 450 feeling like a 250. Ofc my setup must have some to do with it. Didnt think of that when i allmost died of The struggle.
My first berg was a 06 FE550 my second a 10 FE390 my third a 2013 TE250. Had i bought the 2 stroke first i wouldn't have ended up with 3 bergs ..2 strokes are where its at if you want light fast and flickable in the woods ..save the four strokes for fire roads and happy trails ..when the tough gets going nothing beats a wide ratio 6 speed transmission and a 2 stroke engine designed for chugging or ripping off road ...i have recently sold my 390 i will be keeping the 550 because I'm a power junky and that thing flies i have it geared more to be a dual sporter now.
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February 8th, 2016, 06:49 AM   #7
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I had alot of 2 strokes. But i just like The 4 strokes more. So i think im gonna have look at The 350 for enduro.
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February 8th, 2016, 07:05 AM   #8
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If your 70-degree wants to go in a straight line, I'm confident you have a low rear and high front = raked out forks = lots of trail = lots of corrective effect of road surface on steering as the ground has more leverage against the point / axis of steering

In other words: Where do the forks sit in the clamps? What are your rear sag numbers?
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February 8th, 2016, 07:22 AM   #9
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If its original spring on the shock it's a 72. That is soft for a standard Nordic person (I don't know maybe you are below average in weight?). I'm 83 kg in the sauna and I use a 80 spring. I can't remember now what I have in the forks but they are a bit stiffer too. With my weight and gear the sag on my bike is spot on. Also when I push down at the foot pegs the bike goes evenly down instead of sagging at the back.
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February 8th, 2016, 07:38 AM   #10
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Its just been rebuildt with harder springs both back and front. Works as i said well for The purpose its intended for. Dirt roads and trails. Its more that i thought it be alot better handling on the track then my old bike
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