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August 1st, 2008, 11:29 PM   #11
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Sounds like a good job, and an 02 650 as well. Would you say that the R6 starter spins it faster than the Honda one I fitted to mine? Mine is nearly spinning fast enough but not quite enough to catch and fire up. BTW all still okay with mine but kick starting can be a bit hard without the kick start decomp mechanism being fitted.
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August 1st, 2008, 11:37 PM   #12
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defo a big difference.

i have one here still.

one thing i needed to add is that i had to kick the bike hard. anything less than full speed and it didn't catch. battery was relatively flat though. when charged it was far better. i noticed that yours suffered none of this which tell me that spark's stators spark earlier and at lower revs.

are you getting the lump of a decomp not working or is it just geberally being a "650" and bloody heavy?

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August 1st, 2008, 11:49 PM   #13
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Just an update 1 month on. Both Kick start with crescent mod & e start hot & cold with the original starter working well. When hot, I too need to bleed in a tiny bit of throttle just to catch it.

If anyone does have starting issues, I cant express how it feels once you get it fixed...and it can be....get it sorted.
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October 11th, 2008, 12:59 PM   #14
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So ...3 months on............... doesn't really want to start off the e-start any more.............................................. .................................................. ...............................................Do I care..............................no I bl**dy don't because it starts off the kick 1st / 2nd time every time and from sitting on the seat (I'm quite short & this was always a problem). The kick start lever doesn't even need to be fully up...what can I say.....if you havent already upgraded and got kick start problems --dutch clog & taffy creaent mod for sure.
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April 22nd, 2020, 06:42 AM   #15
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Hey Taffy

How did you fit the R6 starter ??? Do you have Any pictures??
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April 22nd, 2020, 07:35 AM   #16
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look in the wiki (top left) under engine mods.
...and it depends on what year and model you are talking about.
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April 22nd, 2020, 09:25 AM   #17
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and you need a spacer before you think you can get it for X just have a look at my price please?

IT'S KNOWN AS THE 'BEEFY' STARTER ON MY WEB SHOP.

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May 18th, 2020, 04:55 PM   #18
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Iím hoping this the right place to post these things I want to share and to ask some questions. I have posted several times before about my 2001 fx470e. When I got the bike it was in rough shape, unrideable but it ran. I have taken my time tinkering with it to correct a lot of neglected maintenance issues. The original carburetor was a mess so I rebuilt it completely. Then I tackled the starting issues. First I moved the battery up under the seat. The stock location really bothered me. It now holds a 260 cca lithium battery. I redid all the cables with automotive size cable. It still has the starter it came with. After getting the carb dialed in, starts every time in one two or revolutions every time, hot or cold. Starts easily with the kick too. The fork seals were replaced, rebuilt the clutch master cylinder, new Maxxis desert tires, and new chain and sprockets. I donít like the suspension, but Iím riding it regularly on the primitive desert roads here. I really like riding it, itís fun except for being quite harsh. The motor runs very well and is quite smooth.
My question at this point is, This a bike I can keep and ride for awhile? Iíve heard some less than flattering things about 470s and their reliability. I know it was produced as a race bike to begin with. I myself am 72 and I ride a moderately brisk pace but no where near racing style intensity. Iíve sort of developed a personal relationship with this old sled. In general I guess, any thoughts on whether I should keep it or get something else to do my moderate riding on? As always, any responses are greatly appreciated.
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Tame thy beast. keep it for sure!
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good on you. enjoy it!
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