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August 19th, 2004, 10:42 AM   #1
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Hey Taffy,

How'd it go with the slotted cam sprocket? What kind of results did you find?

Also, I searched but could not find... I remember reading, possilby before the UHE server meltdown, that one could order a chain from any old industrial supplier. I can't find the right size though. I was doing a bit of leg work for the clan, knowing that I need replacing of mine soon as well. I remember reading the specs on here...

Any thoughts?

-Parsko

PS-Cryogenincally treating things. This is the process that is essentially the reverse of heat treating, right? One would cool in a liquid nitrogen bath, then slowly bring temp to room temp... Am I correct?
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Parkso, I saw your PS on the post to TAFFY and wanted to comment. Cryogenic treatment in the field of metallurgy consists mostly of "tempering" operations that are intended to fully transform a hard material to an even harder condition. It does NOT undo a higher temperature heat treatment, (therefore not the "opposite" of heat treating). Hope that answers some of your questions. As far as the timing chain goes, I just recently read a post from someone who listed the chains and their sources, so it's here somewhere, (or on Thumpertalk). Best regards, BD
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August 20th, 2004, 10:29 AM   #3
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Cam chain --- 200.045.04 --- 110038PITCH:REN63 --- £0.14

from my info sheet. hope it means something-i think it should. the slotted camwheel was done and works perfectly. i have to say that dale's cam timing figures didn't stack up with 1mm of lift but were spot on for 'moment the dial guage moves'. i think the less said there the better.

however slotting the camwheel turned out to be a must as i had to move the timing gear on the crank one way, the camwheel the other (by a tooth) and sort the rest with the slotted camwheel.

at least i have the experience now for us all to fall back on when the next bloke tries the job.

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Hi Taffy, Dale & Co
After reading my eyes in a blur I came about this old post so I thought I give it live again!!

After I did my valves in TDC position I seemed to have a problem with the exhaust clearance. The clearance got too big, and valve noise went up as well. So I decided to open up the top and see what was going on there. What I saw is the cam is off by half tooth of the 90 degree described in the workshop manual and therefore making the internal de-comp too close to TDC and affecting my valve check. I did screwdriver in the sparkplug to confirm TDC markings on flywheel and crankcase. Pushed a rod in the timing chain tensioner a got three clicks there and cam sprocket and chain are looking ok. But there must be some ware in the chain or chain guides to affect his.

As I do not have any easy access for spares here in Dubai (Current dealer has given up!) I thought I would make an oval hole in the cam sprocket as mentioned in this post to time in the camshaft correct. I seem to be sure that you can only compensate half tooth on post 2000 models via gear settings at the clutch.

I just though I’d post this before I go ahead and see if any advice from you guys.

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well it'll be a piss of piss for you with an alloy sprocket. A DODDLE/A WALK IN THE PARK!

my only quick advice is to take out the cam and as you file away - keep putting the sprocket on the cam. if you aren't filing in an arc you'll notice that the hole you file doesn't match the threaded hole behind!

life's quicker this way....

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"i have to say that dale's cam timing figures didn't stack up with 1mm of lift but were spot on for 'moment the dial guage moves'. i think the less said there the better"

Out of 100 camshafts you of all people would be the one. LOL

Gear Slotting:
Slotting the camshaft sprocket is a must in particularly when altering deck height, etc.
Make use of a rotary table and mill. (for most this means a trip to the local machinist)

Here is a picture of solid bushing / solid roller cam chain I purchase in bulk and distribute:


One Dollar per Link including Master.

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66 link's of solid did chain sell's for 24.30 retail Just a thought.
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Originally Posted by BOSS
66 link's of solid did chain sell's for 24.30 retail Just a thought.
Hi Rick,
The new OEM chain is OK, I guess. The bulk I have was sourced during the dark period and of the highest quality. You know such to be true as you have purchased chain from me.



2004 OEM Chain Failure.

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Yes dale that is true,but it's still in the bag that you sent it in.
Would it be worth anything to you? Shorty after the conversation I had with you
the oem did solid roller chain showed up,hopefully most of the dark day's
are behind us now! But thank's for the help
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Yes I no about the problems with split roller chain & they should of too!
In 05 they introduced the new DiD chain & has been very good!
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