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March 12th, 2019, 09:48 AM   #1
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Metal chunks on drain plug

I just bought a 2004 fs450 a few weeks ago, has 130 hours on it, previous owner rebuilt it at 100 hours. I just did my first oil change since I bought it and there was a lot of fairly large metal chunks and shavings on the drain plug. Screen was clean, filter was clean as well. Iíve heard that metal shavings in these motors is normal, but these seem too large to be normal. If anyone has any ideas as to where these chunks might have came from that would be much appreciated. Would it be a bad idea to run it for an hour or so on the new oil and check the plug again?
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March 12th, 2019, 12:35 PM   #2
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I would pull the pickup filter screen and see what is in there. A better image of the flakes on the plug may also help in IDing what they may be.
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@NoClassic I did pull the screen and there was nothing out of the ordinary. Iíll post a better close up pic of the shavings on the plug when I get off work. The pieces of metal are all shapes and sizes, which has me quite worried
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That is concerning. Obvious sources are going to be bearing surfaces or clutch.
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March 12th, 2019, 10:06 PM   #5
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I had that type of crap on my drain plug from new all the time until even after Orange berg fixed the main bearing and still many more km than that.
What I believe that it was, or only could be was the ends of the gear teeth, they were just as wide and came off in one piece, like a needle like, I could press down on them with my fingers and nearly went through my skin and I always had lots of metal fluff around the magnet. but then it came a lot less.
The only bike that I remember having a magnet on the drain plug was a Suzuki DRZ400E that I bought new and I never seen much metal crud build up on that as the berg did have and I changed the berg oil much more often, around 300KM mainly.

When I bought my 450 berg it would not rev out like it did after orange berg did it up, so what happened was that the crank was trying to bust the main bearings and that's why it could not rev out like it does now, it would get real nasty and just try to shake it's self to apart at max rev. now it must rev 3000 rpm more and is smooth but not as smooth as a Jap 450 are.
So if you think that it may be a main bearing maybe it will be like mine was and not want to rev right out.

It was like it would rev out to harshness and then I would change up and it would be just within the power band to ride quick and at times a little under that, but now I ride it at about the same rev as or a touch more and it's quick as it has good torque and grunt and only use the last 3000rpm if I really have to keep someone at bay or real big hill climes.
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@rosenberg 450 08 I havenít noticed any issues with revving, bike happily revs to the limiter with full power all the way. As far as preformance is concerned everything seems perfect, the only issue Iíve had was flooding it a few times and now this drain plug. No odd noises anywhere, if I have time tonight Iíll open up the valve cover for a better look. It would be awesome if I could figure out where the metal is coming from before I go in blind, Iím planning on changing the oil tonight so Iíll get a pic of the plug again after about 1-2 hours. It may be wishful thinking but Iím hoping the metal could be leftover from the rebuild due to the previous owner not changing the oil enough
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do another oil change and you'll get a better idea. do the cheap ideas first.

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@taffy I did another oil change when I got home, just a few small shavings on the plug, but now I noticed a few non magnetic copper looking bits in the oil. Could these be pieces of a bearing? I pulled the clutch cover and found out the magnetic chunks came from a gear, not sure which one but it’s the one closest to the cover furthest towards the front. Do you sell gears? I couldn’t find em on your site. Looks like an easy fix if I got a new gear, but am still quite worried about the non magnetic bits. I don’t know how to check bearings without pulling apart the whole motor lol. I’ll post pics of the gear and metal shavings when I can figure out how to upload them to this forum, not very computer savvy haha

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you could still only be losing a small bolt out of the cam sprocket. it is there to stop the decomp weight. the signs of copper should narrow it down but I'm struggling to think what could let copper go and still operate OK? that would explain a lot of steel and some copper.

there's a chance that the previous owner did some DIY and dropped a copper washer and it is nothing.

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When I blew a motor due to lack of water some of the chrome particles on the oil screen were copper coloured due I presumed to excessive heat. Just an idea 🤔
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