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August 5th, 2017, 07:26 AM   #11
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I have ordered the modified decomp mechanisme from you a few days ago... But okei if you say so, i will order a 08 cam and get the new ADC mechanisme installed, please send it with F16! Is there anything else have to be done to the new 08 shaft before i can install it? Steel sprocket i guess? Thanks again
Can u let us know where u can get 2008 cam? Please and thank you.
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through 2004-2008 the 450 and 550 got the 5521 cam while the 650 got the 08 cam. 08 is a code and not a year!

the 08 cam is still for sale and I hold one in stock all the time.

the 2001-2003 bikes (the 470, 550 as well as the 2001-2002 650) had the same 53 cam which is really the same as the 5521 cam but with nasty concave flanks. if anything the 53 is more of a 'tractor' than even the 5521 is. the 400 got a weak 01 similar to the 53, the 501 got a re-phased 53 cam called the '55' and also, in 2003 the 650 got the 5521 cam first.

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August 5th, 2017, 07:56 AM   #13
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I wouldn't say taking a starter off is an easy option. I'd say it's a sensible option. If it doesn't work and the bike starts first time with a kick, what's the point in having the starter there? I have better things to spend my money on than a bigger starter and battery etc. It also interfered with the new carb install so it made sense to go. But I can see why you would want it and want it to work as it should.
How can a bigger starter and a better battery help, when its the torque limiter slipping? Why is the torque limiter installed in the first place? To prevent damaging the starter right?
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Sorry I missed that bit, it's a common mod to change the starter. the standard starter isn't usually strong enough to turn the engine


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Hmm Okei, i dont have that problem. The starter works fine, it is the torque limiter gear that starts spinning/slipping. I will take the gear apart and see if i can shims it up somehow, to prevent it from slipping that early. Guess it is a reason the T limiter is installed in the first place, so removing it/installing a solid gear will prob. not be a good idea anyway?

What about the sideway movement on the rockerarm, should there be any? Or just barely?
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I also had a problem getting the gear in neutral. It is hard to take from 1st to neutral, so most of the times it pops right into second gear.

Can it be as simple as the clutch?
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Originally Posted by gregfreefaller View Post
I wouldn't say taking a starter off is an easy option. I'd say it's a sensible option. If it doesn't work and the bike starts first time with a kick, what's the point in having the starter there? I have better things to spend my money on than a bigger starter and battery etc. It also interfered with the new carb install so it made sense to go. But I can see why you would want it and want it to work as it should.




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Hmm Okei, i dont have that problem. The starter works fine, it is the torque limiter gear that starts spinning/slipping. I will take the gear apart and see if i can shims it up somehow, to prevent it from slipping that early. Guess it is a reason the T limiter is installed in the first place, so removing it/installing a solid gear will prob. not be a good idea anyway?

What about the sideway movement on the rockerarm, should there be any? Or just barely?
If you can weld the torque limiter up go for it, just use the decompression to start off with first up if you think the starter motor is copping to much of a flogging.
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I also had a problem getting the gear in neutral. It is hard to take from 1st to neutral, so most of the times it pops right into second gear.

Can it be as simple as the clutch?
All are the same, you just have to get to know the knack of how to do it.
Shift into neutral while still on the move is the go.
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can't get neutral before 2003...it's the clutch. there is also a burr on the selector fork often.....grind this off. they don't all do it but the 1989-2002s ALL do it.

rocker arm just loose enough to move.

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