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April 2nd, 2017, 12:09 PM   #1
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auto clutch/ up or down vote?

I read the threads on the recluse..very informative..good info on setup but not much talk about whether or not it is worth doing. I've got one sitting in a spares box that came with the bike( never used). Any input on Auto Clutches would be appreciated, I would really like to hear from anyone that removed theirs and why

I'm back on dirtbikes to rehabilitate my shoulder and body after surgery, so I can get back in to club racing and track days (asphalt). The concern is my brain. I'm used to modulating with the clutch. I don't want to rethink every time I get on a dirt/streetbike. Maybe I'm making more of it than it is?
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April 3rd, 2017, 12:11 AM   #2
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It's very intuitive so nothing to relearn really. A reason I heard why some don't like them is that they want full control over their clutch, mostly really skilled people (many years of driving without and ex trial drivers). I belong to the happy amateur group which find it very helpful. Another reason why not to use a rekluse is tarmac. You have no real need for it there and it can also make the clutch slip on higher gears and revs. My EXP2.0 is slipping on tarmac in higher speeds.

But for me, happy as I am, the rekluse is well worth it when I drive on dirt and single track. Makes my 570 so much easier and fun.
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April 3rd, 2017, 04:22 AM   #3
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I don't like them as it's impossible for Them to
Be fully locked up at idle and just above

If there was an electro hydraulic anti stall servo clutch that would be fantastic

I believe clake is working on it
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April 3rd, 2017, 06:37 AM   #4
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I have one in my fe350 and love it 80% of time I class myself as mid level and at weekend I did a trail course and ended up being riding up a expert clim 11 started and only 3 made it up , if it wasn't for rekluse pretty sure I not made it up but on down side later a crashed and broke front light which blew fuse so had to push bike back as no power to starter and you can't bump a rekluse clutch


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April 3rd, 2017, 07:26 AM   #5
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The only way to know for sure is to try one, if you've got it there then fit the thing and see what you think.
If you like it then great.
If you don't like it you've gained a few garage hours and checked out the old clutch.
Plus you can sell it and put something else in the parts box.
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April 3rd, 2017, 09:20 AM   #6
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I bought one back in 2006 because I was going to be doing a team desert race on my friend's bike which had one installed. I liked it so much that I left it installed on the bike. I really liked it because it taught me how I was supposed to be using a manual clutch in racing and difficult technical trail environments. It taught me that you don't always want the engine coupled tightly to the transmission, especially in very tight slow trails. It also taught me how to smoothly clutch through a corner in order to get the best corner exit speed.

Basically, it taught me how to be a better rider.

I have several bikes and only one has a Rekluse on it and I can tell you that I never had any problems transitioning from the auto clutch bike to a manual clutch bike.

However, I will back up what Jon Andersson says about an auto clutch on tarmac. I always rode a gear lower to put the engine in a higher rpm range on tarmac because it seemed that the clutch was slipping quite a bit in the taller gear. I had the Z-start in my 501 with tungsten balls in every slot to get it to lock up at lower rpm but I also had a stiffer spring installed for quicker clutch engagement for launching up rocks or over trees. It took a lot of trial and error to get the adjustments dialed in just where I wanted it, too. I think that bigger engines with more torque don't respond well to the Z start (I have no experience with any of the newer designs from Rekluse) and I would hesitate to install one in a 600. Matter of fact, Rekluse themselves didn't recommend an auto clutch for a 650. I think it worked well in my 501 but was tops in my old 2005 KTM 450SX race bike which was very high-strung.
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April 3rd, 2017, 03:52 PM   #7
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Had one in every bike I've had within the last ten years. I still feather the clutch as normal, too. The best thing I can say about them is that I don't notice it and/or use it for 85% of the time, but that 15% that I do notice it in, it is a godsend.
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April 3rd, 2017, 10:13 PM   #8
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Originally Posted by thorgan View Post
It taught me that you don't always want the engine coupled tightly to the transmission, especially in very tight slow trails. It also taught me how to smoothly clutch through a corner in order to get the best corner exit speed.
Funny, I never thought of it that way but it was the same for me, with the rekluse came I started using the rear brake to keep the balance in the curves while the clutch was dragging.
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