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January 26th, 2015, 02:03 AM   #31
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Thanks tourist, Ill start by tearing it down and have a peek at the injector/filter and take it from there.
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You charged extra for those epic stains I hope
Epic stains were FOC, so was hire of wego unit Thanks bushmaniac!


Some fuel pump pick up screens were dodgy.

Kinked lines inside the tank?

Build up of oil or water in the 'airbox'? Same symptoms happens to me on big water crossings when a bit of moisture collects in the airbox.

Tillbuilt put his IAT on the outside of the airbox on his snow bike, I'm thinking in that example the ECU sees high IAT (IAT close to motor sees high temp when ambient is low temp) and adjusts to suit, = lean out.?

Bad earth? Ecu see low voltage at high demand?

Bazzazz might be in confict with the virtual acc pump ( I cant turn the f€ckin off with the KTM UST and it shits me to tears)

Just chuckin it out there. Hope you get it sorted, looking forward to some hectic 570 ice racing
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January 26th, 2015, 08:17 AM   #33
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Some fuel pump pick up screens were dodgy.
Kinked lines inside the tank?
Ill look into that

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Build up of oil or water in the 'airbox'? Same symptoms happens to me on big water crossings when a bit of moisture collects in the airbox.
Its dry, no oil no water

Originally Posted by berglsmerg View Post
Tillbuilt put his IAT on the outside of the airbox on his snow bike, I'm thinking in that example the ECU sees high IAT (IAT close to motor sees high temp when ambient is low temp) and adjusts to suit, = lean out.?
I can direct outside air (or warm inside air) into the dyno so I tried it at minus 5 and it compensates very well.

Originally Posted by berglsmerg View Post
Bazzazz might be in confict with the virtual acc pump.
It worked very well for too long to be that, but Ill keep it mind still.

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Just chuckin it out there.
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Edit: I checked the plug cap/boot from a local tip, the lead wasnt loose but the cap itself was a bit dodgy and the plug tip had been worn from it vibrating, new cap on the way.

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at about 150 hours I had to replace my cap to.....
Is everything solved or still waiting for parts?
I just ordered myself a seat I wonder it will come with the seat cover or not because the price seems cheap for a complete OEM seat (117€) .
If not I put a black seatcover on it
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January 30th, 2015, 08:34 AM   #35
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Just got back home from trying it in the dyno and its back! wooot
I had a look at the injector and it looked good, cleaned it anyway, I suspect it was the spark cap, replaced the tip with a fresh one and now it works, but Ill never really know what caused it/what solution was.

The hole in the seat works really well, tried today a couple of pulls with the gutted seat and then tore it off completely, identical result.
A warning is in place, the intake roar takes on another level, I just put ear plugs in.

Probably just because the bike is now working gods decided to dump a massive bit of snow on us tomorrow, questionable if there will be any riding this weekend Anyhow Im joining the national ice racing series, so there will be some action later I hope.
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January 30th, 2015, 08:59 AM   #36
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Is there an instruction on how to perform the seat mod? I have seen photos of the hole in the seat with a little velcro cover, but don't know how to actually do it. What happens if it starts raining... rain goes straight to airfilter (don't know what new models look like, but old one this is the case).
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That's why I am getting a second seat for days that there is a chance it will rain I use stock seat for trackdays or sunny days seat with hole
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January 30th, 2015, 09:24 AM   #38
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Reasonable amounts of water into the engine wont do anything bad, but you dont want it raining in there agreed leaving the bike parked.
While running it can take quite a lot of water, see water injection.
Some folding attraption I beleive I saw too so you can choose open or closed.

I peeked at those pics too and by looking at the seat upside down there is pretty much just one way forward. I used a rotating saw as I was too eager, but you can use a dremel grinder or similar to get a more even cut, my bike is strictly practical so I dont care much about estetics, still looks ok though, Ill have an upholsterer make such a net you mention eventually, for now the bits remaining are just riveted down, looks ok to me but not perfect.

I undid the rivets and undid the canvas, then I drilled it from underneath careful not to penetrate the foam. The foam shape is what determines if it will look good, be careful with that and it will look good in the end imo. The seat plastic is rigid enough to accept this hole no problem, start by getting through the black plastic and then work your way up and make a pretty hole.

I just did it quick now to see if it worked, if I were to do it again Id undo the canvas and then use a marker pen to see where to cut.

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Reasonable amounts of water into the engine wont do anything bad, but you dont want it raining in there agreed leaving the bike parked.
While running it can take quite a lot of water, see water injection.
Some folding attraption I beleive I saw too so you can choose open or closed.

I peeked at those pics too and by looking at the seat upside down there is pretty much just one way forward. I used a rotating saw as I was too eager, but you can use a dremel grinder or similar to get a more even cut, my bike is strictly practical so I dont care much about estetics, still looks ok though, Ill have an upholsterer make such a net you mention eventually, for now the bits remaining are just riveted down, looks ok to me but not perfect.

I undid the rivets and undid the canvas, then I drilled it from underneath careful not to penetrate the foam. The foam shape is what determines if it will look good, be careful with that and it will look good in the end imo. The seat plastic is rigid enough to accept this hole no problem, start by getting through the black plastic and then work your way up and make a pretty hole.

I just did it quick now to see if it worked, if I were to do it again Id undo the canvas and then use a marker pen to see where to cut.
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January 30th, 2015, 10:26 AM   #40
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I take it that it needs a remap for the difference to kick in? and even to not induce a lean condition?
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