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May 30th, 2012, 06:43 PM   #21
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Re: Thumper Racing 610 kit.

Thanks for that, I hope he is well soon! That post was a while ago now and I have proceeded to stick with the original capacity purely because Im inpatient and need my berg running as soon as I can! I have been riding my mates EXC530 on occasion which is a great bike but its just not the same, ha ha!
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Yeah I had a 530 exc before I got the 570 & your 100% right they are ok but as you say not the same. Every time I ride the berg it amazes me.
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Re: Thumper Racing 610 kit.

Man I rode a brand new wrf 450 last week and what a piece of junk..... Nothing compares to the 610, even the 570 feels plastic in comparison.
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Yeah yeah, rub it in! Ha ha!
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Originally Posted by berglsmerg
Man I rode a brand new wrf 450 last week and what a piece of junk..... Nothing compares to the 610, even the 570 feels plastic in comparison.
I got to ride a brand new WR - 450 last Saturday, it was a good comparison hoping off the Berg & onto the WR & back & forth a few times. Power wise really no comparison, the WR is not a bad bike probably a really good bike ridden in isolation but compared with the Berg it felt a distant second to me & also to the other two riders I was with.
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Re: Thumper Racing 610 kit.

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Yeah yeah, rub it in! Ha ha!
Yeah no need, if you have the opportunity do it you won't be disappointed.

You're exactly right 86 it's not a bad bike, it's just not the real McCoy, but I'm biased.....
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Re: Thumper Racing 610 kit.

Ok so now I have mounted a 44mm Bergos throttle body to my beloved Swedish girl. A quick check of the TPS and adjustment of the throttle cables and away we go.

The first Start up had me a ltttle worried as it took a fair amount of cranking but I put this down to the fuel system purging air caught between the quick fitting and injector. Had the injector ultrasonically cleaned and tested while the TB was away. The strangest thing was that the power relay dropped out twice while ( head and tail lights went out ) let it idle for a couple of minutes ( yes Davo, I did a " burn in ) but the motor still ran.

Anyway out on the road the seat of my pants told me that I have more mid range torque and crisper throttle response without any noticeable loss to bottom end response and a stronger transition into the top end. Under had acceleration any lumps in the road would send the front end skywards

I wish I could quantify the gains or changes yielded by the bigger TB, I was keen for a race against my friends 610/ FMF equipped machine but a bung knee put paid to that. I have lined up a dyno session in a weeks time so then I will post the results straight away I will be attending this time so hopefully I can make a cool video like some of you other blokes at the sumo.
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Re: Thumper Racing 610 kit.

More fuel will net you more HP, especally now that you have the bigger TB to flow air better I am certain you are lean. My bike is bigger but I add ALOT of fuel to the mapping on the top side and a good bit to the bottom revs of the mapping as well.

You can see how you power on the dyno run falls off on the top side due to a lack of something - air/fuel or both. You now will flow more air so I'm certain you need more fuel. Shoot for an A/F ratio of 12.5-13 and you will see your HP and Torque numbers go up. I would think the 610 kit should put out 60ish pretty easy with correct tuning - done up to the hilt numbers of 65ish would be easy IMO.
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Re: Thumper Racing 610 kit.

Thanks for the advice mate ! I was motivated by the drop off in high rpm to do the TB and I agree that it is lean up there now it feels like it stops pulling as hard. I'll be looking to get as much as I can out of this tune, I'm on the road to 70 at the wheel then I'll be happy..... For a little while. Might have to actually compete with this thing one day, definitely going to the Grasstree beach race next year and need powa to compete with methanol fed fe 650's and mutant cr 500's.
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Re: Thumper Racing 610 kit.

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More fuel will net you more HP, especally now that you have the bigger TB to flow air better I am certain you are lean. My bike is bigger but I add ALOT of fuel to the mapping on the top side and a good bit to the bottom revs of the mapping as well.

You can see how you power on the dyno run falls off on the top side due to a lack of something - air/fuel or both. You now will flow more air so I'm certain you need more fuel. Shoot for an A/F ratio of 12.5-13 and you will see your HP and Torque numbers go up. I would think the 610 kit should put out 60ish pretty easy with correct tuning - done up to the hilt numbers of 65ish would be easy IMO.
Back 26 years ago when I was a young fella Water Ski Racing my trusty old V8 Chevs made more Horse Power with less fuel. They never never never ever made more power with more fuel? They just leaned out, made more horse Power and went bang. I know they made more Horse Power as it was hard to hang on to the ski rope.
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