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September 16th, 2011, 04:16 PM   #81
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Re: 70 degree valve check/adjustment

Oh for Pete's sake. Really? Yet another vehicle that was designed for manufacture in the plant but not for service or maintenance. Damned preposterous. Had I know this I wouldn't have bought the thing.
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September 16th, 2011, 05:11 PM   #82
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Re: 70 degree valve check/adjustment

What the heck are you talking about Ruger? It's a two-beer job if you're taking your time.

I also have an auto-clutch (rekluse). Take the stator cover off and use a wrench to turn over the motor. I then place a rag between the stator cover and stator so the magnetic force doesn't snap the cover back every time you want to advance the motor. Otherwise you risk tearing the gasket there. (don't ask me how I know).
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September 16th, 2011, 06:17 PM   #83
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Re: 70 degree valve check/adjustment

What am I talking about"

"Drain the coolant"
"Remove both radiators"
"Remove the chain tensioner"
"Insert a wire to hold the timeing chain from falling down inside the motor"
"Gently pull the camshaft out of the bearing seats"
"Remove the timing chain"
Etc.

I've been gapping valves in both motorcycles and trucks for over 30 years, but this is absolutely rediculous. It's an ignorant design.
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September 16th, 2011, 09:28 PM   #84
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Re: 70 degree valve check/adjustment

I agree that removing the tank is tougher than most bikes. And removing the radiators is a bother. But the rest is much easier than my Honda CRF.

With the 70 degree motor, wiring the timing chain may not be necessary, but I would rather be safe than sorry. And you don't have to remove the chain. Removing and resetting the chain tensioner is easier than on the Honda too. At least in MHO.

I really only have 3 complaints about working on the Berg;
1) the tank is harder to take off and put on than most bikes
2) removing the radiators to check the valves
3) the battery compartment is way too compact

Everything else seems pretty well thought out to me. The 70 degree motor just changes things.
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September 16th, 2011, 09:32 PM   #85
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Re: 70 degree valve check/adjustment

Originally Posted by Garrison
What the heck are you talking about Ruger? It's a two-beer job if you're taking your time.

I also have an auto-clutch (rekluse). Take the stator cover off and use a wrench to turn over the motor. I then place a rag between the stator cover and stator so the magnetic force doesn't snap the cover back every time you want to advance the motor. Otherwise you risk tearing the gasket there. (don't ask me how I know).
Thanks Garrison!!!

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I've been gapping valves in both motorcycles and trucks for over 30 years, but this is absolutely rediculous. It's an ignorant design.
If she brings you that much displeasure, maybe it's time to let her go and let someone else enjoy her for what she is....

One Bad Ass Bitch!!!!
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September 17th, 2011, 06:04 AM   #86
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Re: 70 degree valve check/adjustment

"If she brings you that much displeasure, maybe it's time to let her go and let someone else enjoy her for what she is...."

The thought has crossed my mind.
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September 17th, 2011, 08:57 AM   #87
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Re: 70 degree valve check/adjustment

Originally Posted by Ruger
What am I talking about"

"Drain the coolant"
One bolt.
"Remove both radiators"

Four bolts.
"Remove the chain tensioner"
One bolt.
"Insert a wire to hold the timeing chain from falling down inside the motor"

How long does it take To throw a zip-tie on?!

"Gently pull the camshaft out of the bearing seats"

One bolt.

"Remove the timing chain"

What? Why?

Etc.

I've been gapping valves in both motorcycles and trucks for over 30 years, but this is absolutely rediculous. It's an ignorant design.
It's no air-cooled BMW, but find me another high-performance four-stroke single that's dissimilar. For someone as experienced as you this is a snap. It probably took me longer to type this reply on my iPhone than the valve check procedure.

But hey, if you don want to deal with it, get something like a WR450. My buddy has 600 hours and only two valve checks. No adjustment needed yet either. Mind you, he has to remove his subframe to rejet...
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September 17th, 2011, 12:15 PM   #88
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Re: 70 degree valve check/adjustment

Yeah, there's that incidental "remove the fuel tank" thing, too. Just a few bolt there too, right?

There ought to be a sticker on this bike that says:
"DISASSEMBLE FOR SERVICE"
I bought the 'Berg to ride it, not dink with it.

Don't mind me, I'm a PAC. (Professional American Curmudgeon)
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Re: 70 degree valve check/adjustment

Ha! Thanks for the good laugh.

Good news though - you don't have to remove the tank to do the valves.
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Re: 70 degree valve check/adjustment

Originally Posted by Garrison

Good news though - you don't have to remove the tank to do the valves.
Only if you have hands like a baby! Personally I don't find removing the tank that a big deal which is just as well 'cos there's no way I can get my banana fingers in there with it still in place Lol!
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