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February 2nd, 2010, 11:06 AM   #71
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Re: Replacement sub frame fuel tank is in the works!!!!

My preorder is in!!!!!!

Thank you Dale!!!!
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Re: Replacement sub frame fuel tank is in the works!!!!

Dale, with firefox, I got the following

You (meaning the website) are running an older version of Java for the scrolling banner (maybe updatee your Jave)

Your website doesn't function very well with firefox, all the buttons are missing on the bottom of the page.

THANKS FOR THE HARD WORK!
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Originally Posted by chtucker
Dale, with firefox, I got the following

You (meaning the website) are running an older version of Java for the scrolling banner (maybe updatee your Jave)

Your website doesn't function very well with firefox, all the buttons are missing on the bottom of the page.

THANKS FOR THE HARD WORK!
I had the same problem with the links at the bottom of the page, as I run FF too. I passed the info along to the admin for our site thanks for letting me know you were having the same problem
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February 3rd, 2010, 05:54 AM   #74
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Dale,
Glad you are making every effort to make the tank right, i.e. the gas cap, the extra space for wire harness, etc. Your efforts are MUCH appreciated.
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Re: Replacement sub frame fuel tank is in the works!!!!

Wooohoooo! I placed my order, got me some of those rad guards also. I can't wait for this, I squeezed 85.5 miles out of my stock tank so with this additional tank I should be in the 120 range which is awesome!

Thank you Dale, looking forward to getting this soon!

All the best, Digs
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All,

Thanks to all of those who have placed their pre orders for the 70degree racing sub frame tanks!!!

I spent about 12 hours at the molders shop yesterday with their master mold model maker Tom working on the model for the mold itself. It was a very productive day, and we completed all the tasks we set out to do on the model. We got the location and depth set for the sub tank fuel fill spout, maximum space for fuel, easy to get to add fuel, but set back below the line between the seat and and side panel to make sure there will be no interference while you are riding. Also found a simple and easy to use cap for the sub tank. Keeping in mind that there is not much room to work with here, I think it turned out really good.

We also made more room for the wiring harness and the adapter plate for the connection on the main tank, and found a great place for the vent to go on top of the sub frame tank.

Tom was super to work with and really knows his craft. That has to be the most times I have taken my tank and sub frame off and put them back on in one day for sure!!! However, it was all really good as we made sure that there is going to be no fitting problems between the two. For anyone who has taken their tank off and or messed around down in the area between the main tank and sub frame, you know it's a tight fit down there underneath the battery. But thanks to Tom's handy work we were able to get plenty of space to work with so there won't be any clearance problems, and still maintain a very high degree of integrity of the tank.

I'll up load a few pictures of my trip to the shop as soon as I can!!!

Thanks again to everyone who has pre-ordered their tanks, purchased some great bullet proof designs products, and everyone else for their ongoing support and interest. Based on current projections we should have our mold in about two weeks.

Thanks,

Dale





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Re: Replacement sub frame fuel tank is in the works!!!!

Hi Dale,

Have you had any thought about putting in some threaded mounting inserts to take an optional small tool container in the future?? I think this would be a good spot (See photo) unless of course this space is used up for fuel on your new version.
A small area to put a few tools would always be a good thing. I have considered a tool pouch like the xr honda unit but I am a short arse and already struggle a bit swinging the leg over the Berg.

Just a suggestion.

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Re: Replacement sub frame fuel tank is in the works!!!!

Hi Dale, with the filler cap there under the seat wont you lose capacity since it wont be at the top of the cell ??

We put a filler cap on the rear left corner of the subframe just behind the seat at the very top, this allowed every ml to get into the subframe. Only down side was you need to cut a hole in the white plastic guard of course. The filler cap we used was about the same size as yours.

edit: see the photo here you can see the black filler cap behind the seat above the side number etc at the junction of the white and yellow line

http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=1 ... 5347661288

in that location it is right at the very top of the subframe and not in the way at all and makes it very easy to fill and get maximum capacity
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Hey Gazza,

Thanks for the great suggestion. I'm not sure how you guys put your cap in, but, we are going to put a metallic threaded insert in the location shown in the photo's and use a plastic cap similar to the one in the photo. This way if someone were to over tighten their cap (no one ever over tightens and strips anything right ) just the cap will strip and can be replaced-inexpensively. There isn't much room up in that area as far as thickness goes, and we would be unable to put the metal threaded insert in the tank there. The other thought on the cap location was to maintain the lines of the bike as much as possible, without their being any possibility of snagging your pants or anything on it when riding or mounting or dismounting.

You do bring up a good point about getting maximum fuel capacity with the location of the cap on your version. What we figure is this. The main tank fill cap is higher than the sub tank, and the back of the bike. By using the fill cap on the sub tank you will get about 95% or better fill capacity of the sub tank, so if my math is correct you'd lose about a half liter by just using the fill cap on the sub tank, and you could get that back by using the following procedure. After filling the sub tank, you fill the front tank and gravity takes over, the higher fuel level in the main tank will fill that small remaining capacity in the sub tank, and then you just top the main tank up again, by our measurements, this shouldn't take more than a minute.


Tazer:

That's a great idea. However, if you pull the shock out of your bike and bring the wheel up to it's maximum travel there isn't too much room there for any kind of box or tool storage area. I do like your idea a lot though, it would be great to not have to wear a fanny pack!!!

Thanks to the both of you for your great input!!!

Dale
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Re: Replacement sub frame fuel tank is in the works!!!!

Could you not fit something the same width as the muffler in this spot??
A tool container would not need to be that big 2.5" x 3"x 8-10"long would be enough.

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