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April 25th, 2004, 10:26 PM   #1
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KTM comparison

Well,since the forum looks kinda bare,I might as
well jabber a little.I rode enforcer4's 520mxc
today and I was quite impressed.The handling
was very similar except for a little head shake,
but a damper should fix that.It had more subtle
suspension,turned just as good,had more low
end power,and button started cold.I can see why
the big KTM is so popular.If it is any heavier I
couldn't tell by riding it.He said his 600 berg
has even more power.I hope he lets me ride
that some time,as long as I don't have to start it.
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April 25th, 2004, 10:31 PM   #2
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If you cant start it you cant ride it (just jokin)

It actually starts very easy with the carby from my quad on it.


Hopefully Lineaweaver gets back with me soon on that other carb and we can take it out and you can get the crap scared out of you

I was not joking when I said it feels like the 94 has more than twice the power You will see hehe
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April 26th, 2004, 12:38 PM   #3
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Originally Posted by ENFORCER4
...... I said it feels like the 94 has more than twice the power ........
enforcer4;
if i am reading this correctly, you feel that your '94 600 berg has double the power of a '02 525 ktm?
if thats the case then the 02 650 berg has 2.5 times the powe of the ktm. i say that because my 98 600 berg isnt a fast as my 02 650.
please tell us more about the power and handling differences between the ktm and berg.
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April 26th, 2004, 01:14 PM   #4
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Hi tuts,

Truthfully and honestly

The power delivery on the KTM is better it is more linear and without the sudden hit of the husaberg (more roll on) however recently riding t jet tims 470 I have to admit the ktm's handling is much much better but my suspension has been modified. Acceleration is much greater, the ktm is much quicker. The front rake of the ktm is much better and I feel it promotes a better turning ability and does not want to wash out as easy leading to faster cornering.

As far as a power issue is concerned I am fully confident that your 650 berg will easily overcome my 520 in a straight line drag or asphalt race with a simple twist of the throttle. On a track or course it will simply be determined by riding abilities the ktm power is fully capable of running with any bike in track conditions.

The hookup of the ktm is much much better less wheel spin and better power delivery the ktm supplied as much power as I can truely use and the wheel spin is kept to a reasonable level. Bike will pull up even in third gear when full throttle is applied even in muddy loose dirt situations

A fair statement must be made the husaberg has twice the bottom end not twice the ground speed.but the husaberg in the end will overcome the ktm in acceleration and overall top speed.

On a track the husaberg will prove slower due to my riding ability I just cannot use all the power available it simply has way to much. I hesitiate to apply full throttle for fear of it wheeling and having to back off to keep it from coming over.

In a race like a hair scramble or cross country where the higher top speed and higher power can be useful the husaberg will easily prevail.

Both bikes are simply great it is like comparing to near perfect bikes power and riding feeling are both excellent. I can give pro's and con's about each all day.

Reliability and parts avalibility will be the only thing that will determine which bike I buy next time when I decide to lay alot of my hard earned money down on the table to purchase my next new ride sometime in the next few years

This will give me plenty of time to make a educated decusion.

I will say however the ktm has a much more refined powerplant and as previously stated the ktm motor does not sound quite as busy and runs much quieter.

After doing 3 valve adjustments the ktm exhast valves are still spot on however the intake side has always been tight every time.

Maintenance schedules are virtually the same oil/valves every time you ride. maintenance is easier on the berg, cheaper to.

The ktm has a much more safisticated oil system I have diagrams if you want to check that out it has a metal hose that goes up and shoots oil onto the camshaft area promotiog higher lubrication.It also has two oil pumps.

It may just be more parts to fail in the long run I don't know only time will tell.

If you want to talk more I always am on yahoo instant messenger!!!

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Ok,I got my butt kicked.Will a 2004 fe550e
outperform a 520 KTM?Will it e-start hot or
cold.Is the suspension better?
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thanks for taking the time for the reply. i appreciate your straightforward opinions.
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Here is a dyno chart showing a 501 and a 520. My guess is that a 550 should be better. I saw HP figures for a 550, that showed the 550 making about 5-6 hp more than a 525.
http://www.mcnews.com.au/Testing/Hus..._CRF_YZ450.htm
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Originally Posted by Brendan
Here is a dyno chart showing a 501 and a 520. My guess is that a 550 should be better. I saw HP figures for a 550, that showed the 550 making about 5-6 hp more than a 525.
http://www.mcnews.com.au/Testing/Hus..._CRF_YZ450.htm

Thank you for this link it was exaclty what I was looking for.

BTW my 98 FC501 did have more bottom end!!!

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April 27th, 2004, 07:11 PM   #9
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I saw a dyno reading on a fx 470 that showed
a peak of 42 horsepower.I can't believe the dirt bike
rags brag up the CRF250x as having great lowend
torque.The dyno test on those is pathetic.Even uncorked
they get less than 30hp.
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April 27th, 2004, 07:47 PM   #10
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i have a dyno graph of my 550 at the shop. my bike has spent LOTS of time on the dyno. best HP number so far is 51.1. no other dirt bike has beat it yet on our dyno, but there is an XR650 that is getting close. he already has me beat in the torque department.
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