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View Poll Results: The question of street legal bikes seems to come up alot on this forum. Is it a major factor that yo
A. Very Important. 36 61.02%
B. It's a consideration, but not a deal-breaker. 18 30.51%
C. Not important at all. 5 8.47%
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April 21st, 2006, 02:21 PM   #41
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Re: Street Legal ?

Originally Posted by LINEAWEAVER
I completely understand your point and concern.
Perhaps the cost to certify a single is simply not considered a good investment.
I smell a more street biased twin on the horizon.
Dale
And I smell trouble if I say what I think.
Again, sadly.
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Re: Street Legal ?

Ah wtf...

Of course there is always the "Lexus" solution with an EPA qualified KTM (Husa2000) engine or even their new DOHC??
Again, sadly.

But at least it won´t be a Jaguar...
OK BITE ME!!!

I stand for it!

/Peter

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This kind of sht takes MONEY!!!
Don´t think there won´t be major changes, ..´cause there will be...
We are the kind of crowd that needs a product that is CERTIFIED and LEGAL.
Believe me, I had no idea about this a month ago, but I feel the wings of bureaucracy big time. And it´s coming our way 12-18 months later as usual...

Your laws control our production, your consumption controls our laws...
OK!!! Borderline TOS, but it has to do with our love for Husaberg!
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Re: Street Legal ?

Aspen, my (new) friend, don't worry about speaking your mind here, or about "political correctness", that was all LAST WEEK!
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Re: Street Legal ?

Shoot!

I must have missed that one...Should have been such a feast...
I never say anything inappropriate.
Have we met in church???

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Re: Street Legal ?

Originally Posted by Dale
I have tremendous first hand experience with both CARB and EPA.
Care to share some info regarding this process, I'm curious. I certainly could understand it bearing a large cost, for sure. But, is it possible that a fleet, such as KTM proper be certified, and Husaberg simply fall under the clause as long as the proper components (Cat for instance) are in place? That is the way the auto industry is, they test as a fleet average. (no need to get into that arguement here)

I agree with aspen in that this post is quite interesting. I have read elsewhere about something which rings a similar bell in my noggin. It regarded the patent system, and how it stifles invention... Need less to say, it is about the system, and us having to deal with it. I am metaphorically comparing this to how the EPA standards basically dictate the standards throughout the rest of the "system". It's funny how this forum has so many members residing in Cali too.

It's getting very late for me right now....

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Re: Street Legal ?

Originally Posted by Parsko
It's funny how this forum has so many members residing in Cali too.
It's getting very late for me right now....
-Parsko
LATE...!!! Cmon!
I´m six hrs ahead of you, and I´m getting up for some enduro trail clearing in the morning !
Where´s your commitment, Sir???

I´m living a life in CA and SWE at the same time 9 hrs apart...
The answer as we all know is Real Swedish Coffee and some good tobacco chew...
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Re: Street Legal ?

Care to share some info regarding this process, I'm curious.
Care to be specific with regard to what it is you wish to know?

Dale
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Re: Street Legal ?

Aspen,

I live in the Netherlands right now, due to work (it was 01:30 at the time, and I had had a few beers thorughout the night).

Dale, specifics...

Estimated cost?
What is necessary to get one? (submit 20 bikes for testing? show every combination of bike avail, so it can be tested?)

I know it's kinda a loaded question, but we (as a population in general) know about these standards, but not how they get implemented.

Getting nagged to do something else right now... gotta go.

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Re: Street Legal ?

Hi Luke,
The process for a single model is often in excess of $200,000 US pass or fail.

When I jumped on the Highland band wagon they had already spent nearly $150,000 and were no where near their target.

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Re: Street Legal ?

For those of you who don't know, there was at least one year, maybe two, that Husaberg imported a street legal version. I think it was 98, and I believe it was an ES designation. Not that, that, has any bearing on the future, just wanted to make sure everyone knew it had happened in the past.

There's no doubt in my mind that KTM will be delivering street legal DIRT bikes possibly in the next model year, and for sure by the next. No, I don't have any inside info, it's the fact that most all of the Husky street legal bikes can't be kept on the showroom floor. And for that matter, are already sold before they're even un crated.

As pointed out earlier, the Husky's are still carbureted, and they have jumped through all the whoops and paid Uncle Sam all the money to get the job done. As DL pointed out it's very expensive, but, I guess Husky saw/believed that they're market share would make up for the expense. And it would appear that they are moving a lot of units.

For those of you who would like to have your bike made street legal here in Kalifornia, there is still a loop hole that can be exploited but, you have to have the pink slip to get it done. I see a fair amount of bikes at the desert races that have a license plate in lieu of a green sticker. If you want to make this happen check out http://www.joeracerproducts.com/ and go to manuals/forms. Disclaimer: I have not done this myself, but, I have heard of several who have and are living happily everafter. Give them a call I hear they are very helpful in this endeavor.

For the record: I have dual (no pun intended) registration on my 2001 501, and just keep the street license PNO (planned non operation). And just use the green sticker as I don't ride it on the street.

As far as having to put CAT's on your lawnmower, well I doubt that's very far off either. Two days ago I heard a commercial here in so cal on the radio talking about how your old lawnmower makes more pollution than 4 cars, and the commercial was encouraging you to buy an electric lawnmower to replace it. Never mind the fact that a large portion of our electricity comes from coal fired power plants beyond the state lines, just a little unknown fact.
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