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December 11th, 2017, 06:22 PM   #11
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The Wikipedia says they had been produced in Austria since 2003.
So who designed the 2000 Chassis? The 2001 engines?
And where?
If all the Swedes were kicked out by that time and Ktm made them, they forgot to change the name and paint them Orange.
I own a 2016 Ktm 500, an 06 Husaberg 650 and 07 Husaberg 550. I dont care who saved who from what or what kind of miracle Ktm did for them
My Husabergs are not Ktms. Different motors and chassis. Different bike bro.

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Originally Posted by pollo View Post
Do you even like being here FE350?
The Wikipedia says they had been produced in Austria since 2003.
So who designed the 2000 Chassis? The 2001 engines?
And where?
If all the Swedes were kicked out by that time and Ktm made them, they forgot to change the name and paint them Orange.
I own a 2016 Ktm 500, an 06 Husaberg 650 and 07 Husaberg 550. I dont care who saved who from what or what kind of miracle Ktm did for them
My Husabergs are not Ktms. Different motors and chassis. Different bike bro.

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Sorry as I noted its nothing against Husa, Just facts. This was not about a 2000 chassis, If you read the start of this thread it was about 2008 and being a real Husa. All Husa's are real Husa's even my 14 anniversary thus the reason I purchased a great piece of history. It does not matter what engine it has, what colour it is or who built it. They are all Husa'a as per the name.
Defining the machine by being "Real or not" they are all real. In 1995 the AG group purchased Husa and there for engineered, owned, designed and sold Husa. That means Husa was under full control of KTM. Dont matter that a Swede worked on them as they were still taking orders from the board of AG, so with this said it wasnt like he designed and built what he wanted. He had a part in it is all.
Yes I guess it was 2003 as I just looked at Wiki as I noted prior 200 and something, pretty close? So if we go with that than real Husa's are only prior 2003? I think allot would beg to differ. All Husa'a are Husa's no matter what as even those with so called KTM engines in them are still Husa's as every one from 1995 was a KTM engine because KTM owned the rights and the name and everything about them!
I hate the separation between years and engine models as not one is more special than the other. It's about the name, the bike and history as well personal preference.
As for the comment about Orange in 1995 KTM was far from being orange, this is a new colour for them lol I remember KTM to be white and if I remember they tried Purple on the seat one year. You should try riding an old KTM about 1990 and see how it compares to the Husa same year.
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The 70 degree engine is designed/made by Roland Íhrn. That was not an order from KTM but from idea that Jens Elmvall had. So please dont give all the credit to the austrians.

The husaberg engineers did have freedom and their own room in the KTM factory. That freedom was cut short in 2012 so the -13 and -14 models were not only using ktm parts but were tweaked KTMs.
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Where did Roland do his 9 till 5 Jon? any ideas?

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From what I understand he lived in Sweden and worked in the racing team.

No doubt the husabergs were ktms. Own, made and r&d in Mattighofen. Sure swedes did the r&d but they worked for ktm in Austria. But it was the "husaberg swedes" who designed their own bikes so they where not ktms in design, they had freedom as ktm let they do their thing and used husaberg as a guinea pig for new tech.

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In 1995 the AG group purchased Husa and there for engineered, owned, designed and sold Husa. That means Husa was under full control of KTM. Dont matter that a Swede worked on them as they were still taking orders from the board of AG, so with this said it wasnt like he designed and built what he wanted. He had a part in it is all.
Full control yes, but he designed and built what he wanted (until 2012). Ktm had a part in it. How much freedom and how much ktm/swedish guy I have no clue. I guess ktm had a big part of it as they had the funds and it was their investment?

My point is again; dont give all the credit to the austrians.

And on topic. If one sell a husaberg one must sell it to a future husaberger.
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mmmm? a Swede working in Sweden designing an engine that KTM didn't have anything comparable too.

since when did ethos, ideas and vision belong to KTM? paying someone's wages never made them that nationality.

designed in sweden by a swede with wages from another country.... maybe we ought to just stop all this and check the nationality of our bosses and payslips?

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If I remember correctly ,almost from the beginning in Sweden, Husaberg had a government loan agreement(AKA grant).When Husaberg was sold to KTM there was a condition of sale that required a certain employment number to stay in Sweden for a specified time or KTM would have to pay considerbly more for the brand.
So it was cheaper for KTM to keep a office in Sweden.
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Not that it will matter but its easily checked by the persons talked about, but Roland that is dead unfortunately. Im having to do with a tech that was working next to Roland, Jens Elmwall was also very helpful when I asked him re tuning my engine, easypeasy check with them if you like. If you like clarity, and if it matters?
I like em all although I just have one bike. Owning one dont mean I care less about the other models that were spit out. As a kid I used to go to races and see the 610 blurp away for example. lovely memories.
Gather all questions as Im meeting with him tomorrow wednesday eve on 2017-12-13.

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mmmm? a Swede working in Sweden designing an engine that KTM didn't have anything comparable too.

since when did ethos, ideas and vision belong to KTM? paying someone's wages never made them that nationality.

designed in sweden by a swede with wages from another country.... maybe we ought to just stop all this and check the nationality of our bosses and payslips?

if it barks it's not a cat.

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From what I know it was developed and built in Austria as that's where the facilities are.


I'm not too concerned tbh, I just wanted to give the husaberg team the credit they deserv whoever payed the wages and wherever the factory is.

Maybe Tomtom can ask Jens so we all know the truth. It can be a bit of an emotional topic.
Personally Im glad ktm bought husaberg and that my husaberg is mostly made out of ktm parts. It makes it reliable and it makes it easy to find spare parts!
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I tried to google the 70 degree concept engine that I've seen pictures of and found it on the best site for husaberg knowledge, this forum!

FE 450, 2005, Force Edition


Anyway this has turned offtopic deluxe, it shows we are emotional about our husabergs. Which is in a way what the topic is about!!!
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