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August 15th, 2005, 07:21 PM   #1
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Question about kickstarter.

When I first got this motor it was fairly easy to kickstart. Then I had other problems and the bike was kicked over very much. Now the bike is very hard to kick over. Can even take the sparkplug out and it is still hard to kick over. My question is: Could something had worked loose in the kicker and cause this and how to fix it? Won`t be riding anytime soon, pulled tendons in my left leg. Thanks to the beast. Hope to start fixing this soon. Thanks for advice and tips. Take care.
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When you start your stroke the decrompression
system is engaged.Yours might need adjusting.
It will even seem like you have more compression
than normal.The tech section should have instructions
on how to adjust it.
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Thanks I have not had a chance yet to check it over yet. I will let you know what I find out.
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Is it possible that the shaft leading to the decompression cable to drop in some and mess up the kickstarting? The kickstarter moves easy to point at the same time the shaft moves the same distance then stops at the same time the kickstarter gets hard to move. I think they are related. When I adjust the valves I turn the flywheel witch is easy to turn but the kickstarter is not. Any ideas or tips? Thanks.
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check the angle of the shaft where it exits behind the case and see if your bike compares to a normal bike?

check the slack in the cable. you want just 2-3mm

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Yes, bill, I actually think you are on to something. We are talking about the shaft that sticks out of the kicker, so it can hook up to the cable decompressor. When I replaced my decompressor cable on my 350, I did not adjust the "depth" of the shaft on the cable. By this, I mean, the shaft slides in-and-out of the kickstart mechanism. This is required for it to functio properly. Before I adjusted mine correctly, it was not out far enough, meaning it was slid into the case too much. This caused me to have binding issues, similar to what I experienced on your bike, now that you mention it. When I adjusted this, even 1mm or 2, it made a huge difference, HUGE.

Go to the hardware store and get a collar to put on there, or temporarily use a pair of vise-grips or similar, to see if it helps, then find a permanent solution. Personally, I would just buy the cable, it will help start it even more than just with this problem.

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Well here is what I found out when I pulled the cover off. The kickstart gear was so far off that it was rubbing the inside of the case. Had worn a smooth shiny area. I removed the kickstarter assembly and did some inspecting. The decompression device had been chewed on some as well as part of the kickstart shaft. I smoothed the ramp up as best I could. The other part I removed and plugged the hole. Assembled it and still wouldn`t budge . This I traced to a loose engagement sledge, witch I tightened. Reassembled to a point so I could recheck, passed with flying colors. Everything else went back together fairly easy. Still reminds me to much of a inside of a clock . Overall I think my problem solved on this part anyway. My old engine had the automatic decompression device on the cam shaft as well as this one does too.Thought I would let you know how things turned out. Thanks
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Well here is what I found out when I pulled the cover off. The kickstart gear was so far off that it was rubbing the inside of the case. Had worn a smooth shiny area. I removed the kickstarter assembly and did some inspecting. The decompression device had been chewed on some as well as part of the kickstart shaft. I smoothed the ramp up as best I could. The other part I removed and plugged the hole. Assembled it and still wouldn`t budge . This I traced to a loose engagement sledge, witch I tightened. Reassembled to a point so I could recheck, passed with flying colors. Everything else went back together fairly easy. Still reminds me to much of a inside of a clock . Overall I think my problem solved on this part anyway. My old engine had the automatic decompression device on the cam shaft as well as this one does too.Thought I would let you know how things turned out. Thanks
Here is a update: I checked and also removed the linkage in the head, witch I plugged as by Taffy`s infro. sheet. Upon inspection the linkage had hit the top of the right rockerarm hard enough to make a cut in the metal. It didn`t appear to have hurt anything else but if I had not done anything it would have. I think it is a good idea to call attention to this to avoid a nasty surprise. Now hopefully this will take care of it. Take care.
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Hey bill,

That's good news. Glad you are getting to the bottom of it. Now, hopefully your left leg will be your friend again

My old 350 has the same problem with the rocker getting cut. I have not had any problems with it though. I wouldn't really worry too much, as long as you stop it from continuing and maintain and inspect as you should. Eventually, you'll have to replace 'em anyway.

Keep the good news coming.

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