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July 8th, 2005, 04:57 AM   #61
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Clark -> If you sometimes have a hard time understanding some peoples humour then think about guys like me (and the greeks and the germans and so on) who dont even have english as our native language

I mostly get what Taf (not just Taffy of course) is meaning by looking at the bigger picture of the message but sometimes that is far from enough. The use of emoticons is very important when using sarcasm, irony and so on
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July 8th, 2005, 09:03 AM   #62
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Taffy,i am not sure how a SM forum will be of benefit to my business.i really had not given that any thought.obviously youve got some ideas .would you mind offering them to me so i can see if they have promise.if they are really good i might flip you a couple valve cover gaskets or something really, this separate forum idea stems from the significant efforts by manufactures like Husaburg offering cutting edge machines.excellence is what enthusiasts really want to have and if a SM forum could help drive that market and actually increase Husaberg popularity ,then i am all for it perhaps a few more of the SM riders that visit this site can offer their opinions about such a forum and if it might create a rooted following that stimulating rather than divisive.dan.
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July 8th, 2005, 12:45 PM   #63
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Originally Posted by Motoxotica
excellence is what enthusiasts really want to have and if a SM forum could help drive that market and actually increase Husaberg popularity ,then i am all for it
i KNEW this was all a sales pitch!

the site is as far as i'm aware for owners to exchange information first and foremost. it isn't a marketing ploy for dealers or a pawn to that end.

as i said at moab. and i did. the biggest difference IMHO between NA and the UK is that we just don't see the dealer as on our side at all. we see it as a cautious agreement where we may work together but always with a knife behind our backs-just incase!

this 'closeness' in the states i find hard to work around. i don't like being manipulated and i don't mind saying it.

if dealers want to share the vast knowledge they gain through their proffession that's great but to prod us like cattle ain't what we're here for. info on good and bad things not just spiel. jedi has a greater responsibility, maybe brett but i doubt it travels lower than that.

i just see everything from certain people now as being profit lead. as proof of your honest and open support to this site (especially but not necassarily only) lets have some info, something that doesn't always end up with a sale.

just once even!

on the above basis it means that many of the posts that dale has done have increased the dealers knowledge so as to increase their profit. something i'm sure he has often thought long and hard about. hard earnt knowledge given away so easily.

it's soooo transparant the way people ride on his back.

i have always printed my results here. indeed does that mean that we have several gurus in dealerships now, "i would update that to an '05 sir, yes they do work-i tried it myself (nose starts to grow) and whilst i was at it i would fit this and this. yes i know i'm a fountain of knowledge and thanks for the compliments; but please don't handclap-just throw coins! thank you sir!"

i for one can see where this all came from and the agenda that's being pushed through. i'll be here either way but even if we don't have an SM section-i don't think things will be the same for me again.

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July 8th, 2005, 03:05 PM   #64
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Dan I agree with you......Brett maybe you should encourage your powers to be to open up a site for exactly what we are talking about.... I'll be happy to contribute my time........I'll be racing (#696) at Cascade Locks see you then.....
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Originally Posted by Taffy
dan

i can only think you just can't stand back and see that it will damage the forum. seperating people away for an unnecassary reason is not a good step for the forum overall.
Actually I see a necassary reason for the new section, I'm assuming you won't be over there and that's reason enough for me.
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July 8th, 2005, 08:13 PM   #66
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Albacore, please keep the cheap shots to a minimum. Voting your choice will be the most productive method of action.

I'm not trying to pick on you in particular, you just happened to be the last in the line.

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July 9th, 2005, 04:35 AM   #67
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The way i see it is this, A Husaberg in SM costume is the same as a Husaberg in dirt clothing, bar different wheels and brakes. I've had a berg in sm since 2002 and without the people on this site i doubt i would got another after the 650.
Personally i don't think we need a specific forum for any sport, just for the bike alone is good enough. Those who want can post their sm questions / answers here already.
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First of all I'm not taking sides here as yet, but simply hope to add some fresh ideas. The majority of what I read on this site is from good old off road riders who ride, drink beer, and bench race, oh... and like to jack around. My kind of chap. There are a few who MX, Enduro, or SM their bikes. We don't have a separate forum to help the double jumpers tweak their suspension, the Enduro riders turn their bikes into timekeeping submarines, or SM riders tweak their brakes, suspension, tires in a roadracing manner. I guess if any of these categories rise to such levels they demand separate attention and the extra work it will add to Schwimm, so be it. The question should revolve around whether SM is at this level or not. I don't honestly know, but FWIW I don't see many of the street replica SM models on the public roads as of yet here in the USA. Maybe in Europe? This is an international site. Finally, I don't see the SM riders as a threat, but an ally. This isn't an Indian vs HD kind of thing. Anything that helps the sport in a way that Husaberg sells more bikes is a good thing.
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July 9th, 2005, 11:41 AM   #69
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Originally Posted by dsducati
This isn't an Indian vs HD kind of thing.
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Careful Dan lest ye date thyself.

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July 9th, 2005, 04:53 PM   #70
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I don't mind, from what I hear in a few years I won't remember any of this anyway.
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