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January 7th, 2014, 09:58 PM   #1
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FE570 vs TE630 for weekend trails and dual-sporting

Hi All,

I'm looking at a Husky TE630 or Berg FE570 as a general weekend trail bike, as well as for some 'adventure' type trips. As far as the weekend goes, reality for me is I ride the bike to the trails, and that might include up to 30 minutes of roads each way at 110km/hr. I'm not stunningly concerned about being comfortable, but I'm curious whether this would be too much for the Berg's smaller oil capacity?

Similarly, I'd like to do some multi day, maybe even up to a week long trip, which is unsupported beyond what can be carried by the rider and the bike. The obvious consequence being that I won't have a lot of space or weight available to carry oil + filters to change every 2-3 days (~1500km's or 15hrs) along with food and water etc. I know people have plumbed the Berg frame to increase oil capacity, but I doubt my skills to do this. Are there any other simpler options for expanding oil capacity and/or adding a cooler that people have tried?

I'd be interested to hear people thoughts on whether the Berg can be used for this more dual-sport/trail riding type of role, rather than just enduro racing?
Similarly, is the Husky likely to be much better than the Berg from a reliability standpoint?
(The Husky certainly has the oil capacity advantage, and wouldn't appear to be as highly strung given that it has the extra cc's but only produces similar horsepower and has a much higher curb weight)...
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The Berg hands down. I have 1st hand experience with both bikes and the Berg will make it a lot more fun! It can do the week long rides without an oil change. Fuel is your biggest worry, but they make a bigger tank for the 70* bikes. These bikes are do it all bikes, but the Berg can do it better, much better!
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Re: FE570 vs TE630 for weekend trails and dual-sporting

I only have a 570, no 630 But - the Husaberg can do with much longer oil change intervals than it says in the manual - it's effectively been proven. Someone over at ADVRider (Lost Rider I think it was?) had oil sent to Blackstone labs for analysis over something like a 20.000 mile interval (and counting). The oil was fine after 2000mi/3000+km changes IIRC.

It's somewhere in this mound of a thread: http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=639366

Here's also a very nice thread on ADVrider: http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=782994
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Re: FE570 vs TE630 for weekend trails and dual-sporting

Originally Posted by 1lunger
The Berg hands down. I have 1st hand experience with both bikes and the Berg will make it a lot more fun! It can do the week long rides without an oil change. Fuel is your biggest worry, but they make a bigger tank for the 70* bikes. These bikes are do it all bikes, but the Berg can do it better, much better!
Edit: I should state that I own a 610 not a 630, but I have friends that have the 630 and it's not that different. I love the 610! It's a great bike! It will do anything you want it to. However, since I bought the 570, the 610 has seen very little ride time. The 570 is just better in so many ways. The only thing the 610 has on the berg, it's smoother for the road riding, but the slightly more vibey berg makes up for it with its awesome trail manners and sick power delivery. It's also easier to pickup. I've spent a lot of time on the 610 off road and there's nothing it can't do that the berg can, I just do it faster and easier on the berg.
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Re: FE570 vs TE630 for weekend trails and dual-sporting

May want to consider a cushioned rear hub if you are considering longer trips on pavement.
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Re: FE570 vs TE630 for weekend trails and dual-sporting

Less pavement and majority single track it would be the berg hands down. More pavement, 2 track and long days in the saddle the husky gets the nod.
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Re: FE570 vs TE630 for weekend trails and dual-sporting

Originally Posted by Dualsport4ever
May want to consider a cushioned rear hub if you are considering longer trips on pavement.
... or if you're strapped for cash, you could look into a Kush Sprocket, an damper-coupled rear sprocket. The first generation had some reliability issues but I haven't yet found many complaints about the current second generation.

http://www.kushsprockets.com/product...ening-sprocket

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Re: FE570 vs TE630 for weekend trails and dual-sporting

Thanks for the great info guys. I've researched this to death over the last week, and I'm still basically at the same point I was originally: The Berg is better at most things, but costs more; the TE is great for the longer trips but heavier all the time. It's such an obvious conclusion, but there is no escaping it.

I was hoping to find other factors that would make the decision much simpler, but it seems that both bikes can make decent short to medium range adventurers. If I'm honest, as much as I want to do more long range trips, I'll struggle to arrange to do more than one a year, and I would be surprised if it surpassed two weeks. I can probably plan around any maintenance short comings. All the rest of the time the bike is going to be a weekend weapon, which probably seals the deal in favour of the Berg, despite the extra cost.

That super wide ratio TE630 gearbox just seems brilliant though, but the idea of something that is even heavier (~another 13kg) than my current DRZ is not appealing at all...
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Re: FE570 vs TE630 for weekend trails and dual-sporting

Originally Posted by Simple_One
That super wide ratio TE630 gearbox just seems brilliant though, but the idea of something that is even heavier (~another 13kg) than my current DRZ is not appealing at all...
i've owned both (well a TE610) and i think the berg's gearbox was just as wide although i never saw the ratio numbers to back that up. personally i'd go the berg if you think you'd only manage one big trip a year. i'm sure on most trips you'd be able to get into a town somewhere and change the oil at the 1600 mile mark.

you've probably come across this already, but the TE630 is a lot heavier than the 610 but it is all in the ridiculous twin exhaust system... you would want to factor in the expense of converting it to a single pipe again and bring the weight down to the 610's level.
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Re: FE570 vs TE630 for weekend trails and dual-sporting

I wouldn't worry about the Cush drive, after 270 hrs (mostly road work to and from work) on my 650 and there's no noticeable wear on any of the gears or anything, I'd rather the snappier response. (Originally I wanted one of the kush sprockets and put my name on their waiting list 18 months ago and never heard from them)
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