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June 7th, 2012, 04:39 PM   #21
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Re: Buying a new FE570? Known issues, problems & common mods

MX and enduro are sooooooo different! I wouldn't run hand guards on an MX bike but I wouldn't be without them on my berg! Like most, they have saved my hands countless times! I have found that It's the small hits you don't notice, like branch whips, that will hurt your hands and cause bar slips. Great thread, loads of info!
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Twitchy Throttle: I found after some messing around that rotating the throttle forward on the bars really helped with the control of the bike. I'd like to have it farther forward than I have it now but the brake master cylinder gets in the way. Worth trying before running out and buying a throttle cam or the like.

How does rotating the throttle forward on the bars stop it being twitchy? Wah?

Next you'll be telling us to rotate the steering wheel in our cars to make the steering less direct.

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How does rotating the throttle forward on the bars stop it being twitchy? Wah?
Next you'll be telling us to rotate the steering wheel in our cars to make the steering less direct.
yep, keen to hear how that works. clocked up 1400km on the berg now and i'm in love. bugger all this stuff about legalizing gay unions, can we legalize marrying your bike? i love my berg!

but i am getting shitty about the crap rear rego plate/indicators extension. i'm not sure if you blokes in the US have it, but down under we can get booked if the rear mudguard extension doesn't extend far enough to cover a 45 degree angle from the rear axle.

husaberg have come up with highly f.....d design that craps up the moment you go off road, disintegrating the whole setup. i trimmed it as much as i could and still keep it legal, but every time i hit a decent jump it grabbed the rego plate and bent it over. c'mon, husaberg. the fe570 is a great light weight min adventure bike, why not get serious with the street legal shit so we dont get booked the cops for replacing with it with illegal "tail tidys"? here endeth the rant.
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Im from South Australia and I did not know about that tail extension rule. Its the first thing I remove from my bikes as I have never had one last longer than one ride! I have my plate bolted directly under my tail light and I havent even been running those huge indicators either. I havent been stopped yet. I am going to fit a pair of slim LED style indicators shortly as the hand signals in traffic are annoying! Maybe I will have a rethink about my extension aswell?
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Im from South Australia and I did not know about that tail extension rule... Maybe I will have a rethink about my extension aswell?
it all depends on how fussy the cops want to be. generally in southeast queensland it is heavily enforced on the mt glorious road ride where there are regular deaths/major crashes by riders. $76 and one point from memory. i like to ride up there every now and then so want to get it working properly so the rear wheel isn't bending my number plate every time i hit a major bump.

also i'm not sure if the relevant legislation is queensland-specific or australia wide. with indicators, there's also some rule about how far they need to be apart, might be 18cm from memory? again depends on the individual cop as to whether they'd book you for this.
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I guess Im fairly lucky as I live rural and we don't see the law very often. They sometimes sit at the end of the trails on long weekends and book the city jerks that come and ride their MXers for not having rego or licences. We usually avoid riding at those times anyway cos those same guys get in our way while they try and learn how to ride, ha ha!
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Re: Buying a new FE570? Known issues, problems & common mods

Originally Posted by Fajoopsa
Originally Posted by moto

Twitchy Throttle: I found after some messing around that rotating the throttle forward on the bars really helped with the control of the bike. I'd like to have it farther forward than I have it now but the brake master cylinder gets in the way. Worth trying before running out and buying a throttle cam or the like.

How does rotating the throttle forward on the bars stop it being twitchy? Wah?

Next you'll be telling us to rotate the steering wheel in our cars to make the steering less direct.

Did I say it makes the bike less twitchy? No. Did I say better control of the throttle? Yes. When you get on a bike do you adjust the position of the brake and clutch levers to suit your riding position/style (standing, seated etc.)? Why is better when you do that? Because it's more comfortable in the position YOU ride in.

The brake or clutch doesn't work any better mechanically but a) it's easier for you to control when in the correct position on the bars relative to your body position and b) when in a comfortable position you may actually be able to exert more force, easier, when adjusted correctly. It's called mechanical advantage (of your muscles, not your brake lever).

The same goes for the throttle, if you have to have your wrist bent in an awkward position to get 40%+ throttle you lose comfortable grip on the bike making control more difficult.

You may just find the 'twitch' is easier to control when the throttle and other controls are adjusted properly. In any event, it's a free and easy suggestion to try before running off and spending money on something that shouldn't be necessary 99% of the time.

If you put as much effort into properly reading someone's post as you do into making uneducated and mis-informed remarks you might have realised that for yourself.
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Re: Buying a new FE570? Known issues, problems & common mods

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Twitchy Throttle: I found after some messing around that rotating the throttle forward on the bars really helped with the control of the bike. I'd like to have it farther forward than I have it now but the brake master cylinder gets in the way. Worth trying before running out and buying a throttle cam or the like.

How does rotating the throttle forward on the bars stop it being twitchy? Wah?

Next you'll be telling us to rotate the steering wheel in our cars to make the steering less direct.

Did I say it makes the bike less twitchy? No. Did I say better control of the throttle? Yes. When you get on a bike do you adjust the position of the brake and clutch levers to suit your riding position/style (standing, seated etc.)? Why is better when you do that? Because it's more comfortable in the position YOU ride in.

The brake or clutch doesn't work any better mechanically but a) it's easier for you to control when in the correct position on the bars relative to your body position and b) when in a comfortable position you may actually be able to exert more force, easier, when adjusted correctly. It's called mechanical advantage (of your muscles, not your brake lever).

The same goes for the throttle, if you have to have your wrist bent in an awkward position to get 40%+ throttle you lose comfortable grip on the bike making control more difficult.

You may just find the 'twitch' is easier to control when the throttle and other controls are adjusted properly. In any event, it's a free and easy suggestion to try before running off and spending money on something that shouldn't be necessary 99% of the time.

If you put as much effort into properly reading someone's post as you do into making uneducated and mis-informed remarks you might have realised that for yourself.
I wasn't trying to be rude or condescending, I was merely making a comment open for discussion as it is an open forum. There is no need for personal comment about my "lack of education" on the topic.

I understand adjusting the brake and clutch but rotating the throttle cant make any difference?
Even if the cables came out the bottom. you're still putting your hand in the same spot relative to the bar and having to twist the same amount.
Twist the throttle 10 degree and you get 10 degree of rotation no matter what.
To get to 50% throttle will still require X amount of twist and full throttle will still require Y amount of twist.

Does anyone else have an opinion on this?

PS: I re-read my post and there was no mention of bike handling. Only a response to your comment on "TWITCHY Throttle" and an example of angular rotation.
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Re: Buying a new FE570? Known issues, problems & common mods

Well, when someone's first post in a forum, and in particular an informative thread designed to help people, is a 2 line wonder not contributing anything to the post, what do you expect?

I agree, moving the throttle 10 degrees is moving it 10 degrees. However, it's the position of your hand when moving it that 10 degrees that matters. Taking it to the exteme, imagine the throttle being 90 degrees out of it's usual alignment. Now ride your bike. How easy is it to control the throttle? You are still only moving the same 10 degrees but the position relative to your hand is what matters.

I have found, along with a couple of mates who have tried that the throttle, in general, is easier to operate through it's full range when it's rotated farther forward. The better control provided by the having the the throttle at this position enables me to control the 'twitch' better.

I'm saying it as it helped me, so, it's not diifcult to coceive it might help others. At the end of the day it's free and easy to try and might save someone the time, effort and money in not buying additional parts like throttle cams.

Until you try it, you wont know...........
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Fair enough.
Sounds like a placebo effect to me.

Do me a favour and before you go for a ride next spin the throttle housing on the bar back towards you and then place your hand on the grip in your normal riding position.
You'll see it's all in your head.
It's just a round tube that converts rotary motion into linear cable movement no matter where it is on the bar.
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