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February 9th, 2009, 11:17 AM   #41
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Great piece of work Sabink !
Not something i would tackle without help.
How much extra fuel does that section of subframe hold for you ?

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February 9th, 2009, 12:00 PM   #42
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Originally Posted by NKW570
Great piece of work Sabink !
Not something i would tackle without help.
How much extra fuel does that section of subframe hold for you ?

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Nick
It's about 3.8 - 4 liters
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February 9th, 2009, 12:05 PM   #43
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Originally Posted by DaleEO
Originally Posted by okle
looks great, sabink!

two questuions come to mind (maybe i just dont understand)

1. how did you fix the weak spots?
2. whatfor is the plug you added in the last 2 pictures?
I was wondering too okle, I just re read his post and it was clear. He used the plug to fix the weak spots where it was leaking fuel.

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That's right. It was only leaking from the left weak spot on the picture. The right one was not leaking, and seems to me strong enough to hold the fuel without problems in the future. You can easily check if your tank also has these weak places with a flashlight from the other side.
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Fantastic report and pics, I am sure this will influence a lot of ppl to do something themselves.

Question: Is it possible, or did it cross your mind, to perhaps put some fibreglass patching, or some sort of melted plastic on those weak spots where you put the plug ? Either in conjunction with using the plug, or just reinforcing on its own.
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I would say fiberglass patch would be the way to go to repair any weak spots. I've repaired large Bomag roller plastic water tanks among other plastic things for years. Find your weak spots and use an angle grinder with 36 or 24 grid to carefully ruff up the area and beyond over an inch. Lay your patch with resin and tape off the area if needed to prevent your fiberglasss from hardening on a smooth surface. You don't want it to start lifting later. Do it right and have peace of mind later knowing you have a thicker wall there.
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I have had some bad experience trying to weld plastic, especially fuel tank plastic, and I do not want to use this method.

Thanks for the idea. I like the resin idea, I will experiment somewhere on the sub-tank, where there is a lot of material and if has strong adhesion I will use it on the second weak spot. The first one is fixed, as it was about 9mm diameter, and I drilled it all.
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The Loctite guys at this years Dakar rallye in South America were using the perfect 2 pack material there I reckon, not sure what the name is but saw them repair many such items with it during the course of the rallye, including plastic fuel tanks, it was black. I will check and see what it was.
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The Loctite guys at this years Dakar rallye in South America were using the perfect 2 pack material there I reckon, not sure what the name is but saw them repair many such items with it during the course of the rallye, including plastic fuel tanks, it was black. I will check and see what it was.
It will be great, if you can get the product name or number!
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I have some 2 part plastic ahesion products. They are at work. I'll try and remember to get the name for you. They are good for certain applications such as sandwiching plastic and fiberglass panels together. Remember that you still need to sand the areas before applying. In my experiance they do not work as well for repair of cracks, broken pieces or build up as we are talking here. The whole piece is more libel to lift up than fiberglass. Thats why for heavy repair work I went with fiberglaass a long time ago .
I lowered my seat a half inch over 1 year ago with fiberglas. I cut off the plastic hooks underside, grinded them down and fiberglassed them back on. It still holds like the day I did it and you know that you need to hook the seat under those metal frame tubes
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Ok got the low down on the Loctite wonder goo stuff I saw at Dakar.

Turns out it's a strange one, Loctite themselves don't distribute it here in Australia, but most Ford dealers and a lot of truck supply places carry it. The product range is called TEROSON, and the one we would have seen at Dakar is most likely TEROKAL 9225.

The guy in Loctite Aust who looks after it (even though they don't distribute it ?) is John Bateman, whose mobile # is 0400 813 850.

I would say this would be the perfect fix for reinforcing any weak areas on the subframe fuel tank based on what I saw at Dakar.
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