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March 8th, 2009, 05:24 PM   #1
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Battery woes please help

Hi all
Need some advice (new to the forum and the world of husaberg).
I seem to be having issues with the battery on my 2006 FS 650e, if I ride the bike daily I have no issues with starting the bike but if I have anymore than 2 days between rides it will not start.
I t just clicks until I recharge the battery again, at which point it starts first time.
Everything is standard on the bike except the exhaust and was well looked after by its previous owner & I have done less than 200ks on it so far (no racing just street).
I ran a multimeter on the terminal when the bike is off and get a reading of 12.47v from the battery and between 13.8 and 14.2 when bike is on.
Do I need a new battery ?? or is this normal, from reading the threads and reading the manual it appears that the nature of these battery's is to discharge when not ridden for some time.. but a few days does not seem normal, is there some other tests I can do with the battery to determine if its life's on edge.
Any advice would be brilliant and please be aware I'm not very mechanical minded.

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RE: Battery woes please help

Your charging system seems to be charging fine when the bike is running. It is possible to test batteries, but I think you trying to start it is a better test. You could do one (or both) of the following things to solve the problem:
a) buy a Battery Tender and keep it connected to the battery whenever you're not using the bike (not a regular charger).
b) buy a battery from Taffy, who has found a really good one with much more available cranking amps.
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March 8th, 2009, 07:07 PM   #3
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Not sure if charger is tender mode.

Thanks for that but I'm not sure if the battery charger is a battery tender one as I have never seen any chargers in the stores with tender on them (Live in Melbourne Australia), i.e its a new calibre 6amp/12 volt 2 mode fully automatic pulse charge system battery charger that has 3 stages.

1 is bost stage where the charger delivers bulk charging up to 6amps and when the voltages rises to 14.2 volts and the batery is 85% recharged the charger automatically switches to the charge stage.

2, charge stage, the charger output voltage is kept at 14.2 volts for up to 6 hours or until the charging current drops to 600 mA (depending on battery capacity), teh charger output voltage will drop to 13.2 V and then switch to "float charge"

3, float stage, The battery charger output current is reduced. teh battery is brought up to 100% recharged state and is constantly maintained at this level.

Is this a Battery tender or just a plain charger.
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Sounds like you are ready for a battery.
I keep all my bikes on an Optimate battery charger when not in use. The Optimate does a better job then the Battery Tender as it will cycle the voltage. Just install the supplied pigtail so it just takes a secont to plug and unplug the unit.
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Re: Not sure if charger is tender mode.

Originally Posted by jcb
Thanks for that but I'm not sure if the battery charger is a battery tender one as I have never seen any chargers in the stores with tender on them (Live in Melbourne Australia), i.e its a new calibre 6amp/12 volt 2 mode fully automatic pulse charge system battery charger that has 3 stages.

1 is bost stage where the charger delivers bulk charging up to 6amps and when the voltages rises to 14.2 volts and the batery is 85% recharged the charger automatically switches to the charge stage.

2, charge stage, the charger output voltage is kept at 14.2 volts for up to 6 hours or until the charging current drops to 600 mA (depending on battery capacity), teh charger output voltage will drop to 13.2 V and then switch to "float charge"

3, float stage, The battery charger output current is reduced. teh battery is brought up to 100% recharged state and is constantly maintained at this level.

Is this a Battery tender or just a plain charger.
That looks like what you want.
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March 9th, 2009, 01:22 AM   #6
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I think thats the one I have

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That's the charger I have!, so am I correct that the calibre charger I have is already a battery tender or does the same thing and if this is the case all I need to do Is attach it to the bike when not in use i.e every night, and is it ok to do this when the battery is also attached to the bike as it would be a major pain if I had to unplug the battery from the bike every night.

Thanks you all for the prompt replys.
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RE: I think thats the one I have

Hi JCB !
You might comes with drain of batterys, possibly through corrosion in connectors, swithes, etc.Check what sort of current flows in your leads when ign. is off.The only permanently live unit is speedo, but it pulls just the milli amps.Don't forgett that amperometer needs to be plugged in-line, i.e. between battery lead end and battery terminal (doesn't make any diff. is it positive or negative terminal).If any wiring or electric unit got moisture, it could very slowly drain your batts.It's worth to check, I reckon.
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RE: I think thats the one I have

i had a yuasa ytz7s in my 650 that began giving me starting probs after only about 6 mos. i was able to determine it was bogus by giving it a full charge on the tender and hooking up a 100w halogen lamp to it while reading voltage. compared to a similar battery in my 450, it showed a larger voltage drop (around 9v compared to 11.5v). replacement generic bat solved the problem.
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RE: I think thats the one I have

Sounds like you have a bad battery. Your battery with the engine off should be 12.6-13 volts if you were just riding the bike. Another test you could due to confirm the bad battery would be to ride it for the day after sitting about an hour disconnect the negative terminal of the battery and test the voltage, the next morning check the voltage again to see if it has dropped. If the voltage dropped below 12.6 volts over night the battery is bad.
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Thanks for your Help

Cheers Lads, I'll take all the advice I can get, one small note when keeping the battery on a nightly float charge do I have to disconnect the battery from the bike ?

Thanks again
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